On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:43:59 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
    >Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Go Fig avait écrit le 26/07/2006 :
    >> > In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
    >> > Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Mxsmanic a pens´ tr?s fort :
    >> >>> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    >> >>>> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    >> >>>> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    >> >>>
    >> >>> I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    >> >>
    >> >> I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
    >> >> like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
    >> >> problems of the press, we may get somewhere.
    >> >
    >> > Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
    >> > credentials' ?
    >>
    >> You mean "la carte de presse", right ?
    >The one that that must be issued by CCIJP, the Commission of
    >Professional Journalist.

Is this commission influenced politically at all?
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
    > Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Mxsmanic a pensé très fort :
    > > > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > > >
    > > >> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    > > >> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    > > >> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > > >
    > > > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    > >
    > > I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
    > > like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
    > > problems of the press, we may get somewhere.
    >
    > Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
    > credentials' ?

Yes, it shocks me too. Obviously, they need to adopt the US style of
lame-arsed journalism. US journalists make the French ones seem like
highly intelligent, probing, pit-bull terriers. I listen to NPR quite a
bit, which you probably consider way too left. I had to turn it off- I'd
not realised just how whacko right-wing US 'journalism' often is. Of
course, for hard-core right wing I suppose you could turn to Fux- no
doubt your fave- but that's a cartoon. A bit like the UK Sun, or even
Times.

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David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > I listen to NPR quite a
    > bit, which you probably consider way too left. I had to turn it off- I'd
    > not realised just how whacko right-wing US 'journalism' often is.

I _lie_. I meant to say I'd forgotten, not 'not realised.'

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:46:36 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:30:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Gregory Morrow writes:
    >> >>
    >> >> > Are the roofs of the White House and it's directly - adjoining
    >> >> > buildings blanked - out...???
    >> >>
    >> >> Some of the roof area on the White House has been retouched on Google
    >> >> Maps. It's not a very good job.
    >> >>
    >> >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    >> >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >> >> the center of Paris! The site is also designed more poorly and the
    >> >> response time is worse. If they can't do it right, why don't they
    >> >> just give up?
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >Does this site also display the French penchant for Flash...???
    >> Flesh Gordon gRunge?
    >With his cohort "Jacqueline the Merciless"...

... wearing nothing but Delft Blue cling film and a silly smile?
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:49:31 +0200, Stanislas de Kertanguy
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    >deansgate a exprimé avec précision :
    >> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >>>
    >>>> You know, not every French lives in Paris.
    >>>
    >>> Every French what?
    >> Piss off.
    >By the way, is using the adjective as a noun _that_ incorrect ? (candid
    >question!)

Yes but this time we forgive you.
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:37:52 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:46:36 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Martin wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:30:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >> Gregory Morrow writes:
    >>> >>
    >>> >> > Are the roofs of the White House and it's directly - adjoining
    >>> >> > buildings blanked - out...???
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Some of the roof area on the White House has been retouched on Google
    >>> >> Maps. It's not a very good job.
    >>> >>
    >>> >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    >>> >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >>> >> the center of Paris! The site is also designed more poorly and the
    >>> >> response time is worse. If they can't do it right, why don't they
    >>> >> just give up?
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> >Does this site also display the French penchant for Flash...???
    >>> Flesh Gordon gRunge?
    >>With his cohort "Jacqueline the Merciless"...
    >... wearing nothing but Delft Blue cling film and a silly smile?


Poor, poor old goat! You postings become more scummy every day!

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate writes:

    > Can you think of a country where web design generally avoids Flash
    > though?

The United States, Japan ... all the more developed countries.

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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

    > 1/ Is submetre precision available on Google Earth (as this was the
    > subject of your discussion) ?

I don't use Google Earth, but Google Maps goes down to one metre in
many locations.

    > 2/ Have you lokked upon small French towns (or not so small ones) on
    > Google Earth and Géoportail.

Yes. The resolution varies, depending on what they have on file.

    > and one remark : I strongly doubt that ultra-high resolution Google
    > pics are satellite ones.

Why?

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[email protected] writes:

    > How do you define 'free' in this context?

Allowed to publish anything.

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[email protected] writes:

    > Quite - but I'm waiting for him to expand on this. There's a middle
    > ground between total press freedom and total state control of the media,
    > and virtually all countries fall into this. But I don't think Mixi likes
    > grey areas!

Gray areas often conceal slippery slopes.

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Go Fig writes:

    > Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
    > credentials' ?

In France, this is used for censorship. The United States has no
government press credentials because it violates the Constitutional
guarantee of freedom of speech.

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:57:27 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin writes:
    >> Not every user wants to change their settings of Norton Anti Virus or
    >> McAfee to be able to see a photo.
    >What is the site doing that interferes with antivirus software?

If you ran some you would know.
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

    > Is this commission influenced politically at all?

To get a press card, you need to earn at least half your income from
journalism, or you need to be sponsored by a press agency. To earn
half your income from journalism, you need a press card. Thus, the
only practical way to get a press card is to work for a press agency
of significant size. And the largest press agency in France is AFP,
which is very heavily subsidized by the government. Are you starting
to get the picture?

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David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate writes:

    > Yes, it shocks me too. Obviously, they need to adopt the US style of
    > lame-arsed journalism. US journalists make the French ones seem like
    > highly intelligent, probing, pit-bull terriers. I listen to NPR quite a
    > bit, which you probably consider way too left. I had to turn it off- I'd
    > not realised just how whacko right-wing US 'journalism' often is.

It's better to hear a wide variety of opinions than to have all but
approved opinions censored. Variety is a consequence of freedom of
speech. Do you oppose freedom of speech?

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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    > [email protected] writes:
    >
    > > How do you define 'free' in this context?
    >
    > Allowed to publish anything.

Which countries allow their media to publish anything?

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