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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 5:38 pm
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Mxsmanic
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

    > What is the link between cryptography and the free press ?

Both have been hindered by the military.

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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 6:42 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > > You know, not every French lives in Paris.
    > Every French what?
    > > Géoportail was designed to have an equal image quality throughout
    > > France, to the Louvre pyramid to the smallest villages in the
    > > Morvan. Of course, when you compare big cities, Google Earth wins by far.
    > Ah, so Géoportail has a secret database of ultra-high-resolution
    > images, and deliberately blurs them so that every square metre of
    > France looks like it was last photographed in 1952?
    > > And the images they use are not satellite ones, and they are true
    > > color.
    > So they _were_ photographed in 1952!
    > And I saw the very crude masking of some seaside facility in Le Havre.
    > I can't believe people are still doing that. Perhaps France is still
    > doing aerial photography from biplanes, but the bad guys have
    > satellites now, and the best satellites now can read your wristwatch
    > from altitude.


Heh. Reminds me of those photography restrictions that used to exist
when flying in commercial passenger craft above East Bloc
countries...yeah, that hazy pic I took on that flight between Prague
and East Berlin SURE was going to mark me as a NATO spy!

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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 7:15 pm
  #33  
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:28:43 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Leffe wrote:
    >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
    >> > Martin wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > On 25 Jul 2006 10:03:45 -0700, "Gregory Morrow"
    >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > >Jacqueline wrote:
    >> > > >
    >> > > >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:18:17 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> >
    >> > > >> ><Jacqueline> wrote:
    >> > > >> >
    >> > > >> >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:20:22 +0200, Martin <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >> > > >> >>
    >> > > >> >> >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:38:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
    ><[email protected]>
    >> > > >> >> >wrote:
    >> > > >> >> >
    >> > > >> >> >>Martin writes:
    >> > > >> >> >>
    >> > > >> >> >>> http://www.geoportail.fr
    >> > > >> >> >>
    >> > > >> >> >>In what was is it censored?
    >> > > >> >> >
    >> > > >> >> >Everything military has been snipped.
    >> > > >> >> >
    >> > > >> >> >Look at Cap La Hague nuclear reprocessing site with Geoportail
    >and
    >> > > >> >> >Google Earth.
    >> > > >> >>
    >> > > >> >> Wow....our Martin has a new job: a spy! His nickname? Porky 007
    >> > > >> >>
    >> > > >> >
    >> > > >> >
    >> > > >> >Have you been fitted with your new dutch cap yet, luv...???
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> **** off...SCHWEIN!
    >> > > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > >M'dear, you are just so very "soignee"...
    >> > >
    >> > > Porky & gRunge have had their trotters on her again.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "A pig in a poke..."
    >> >
    >> shes crackling up :)
    >Her face at least :o)

That's a Granny Smith apple in her mouth, not her lips.
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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 7:21 pm
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:30:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Gregory Morrow writes:
    >> > Are the roofs of the White House and it's directly - adjoining
    >> > buildings blanked - out...???
    >> Some of the roof area on the White House has been retouched on Google
    >> Maps. It's not a very good job.
    >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,

Somebody with a home made garden shed in Alpes Maritime says he can
see every detail of his handcrafted wood work. With Google Earth you
can't even see the town other than as a blur.

    >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >> the center of Paris! The site is also designed more poorly and the
    >> response time is worse. If they can't do it right, why don't they
    >> just give up?
    >Does this site also display the French penchant for Flash...???

It doesn't work for many who use antivirus software, without first
disabling things that the user wants to keep enabled.

www.geoportail.fr doesn't work for me today. Maybe I have been struck
off for criticising French technology.
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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 7:22 pm
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:30:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Gregory Morrow writes:
    >> > Are the roofs of the White House and it's directly - adjoining
    >> > buildings blanked - out...???
    >> Some of the roof area on the White House has been retouched on Google
    >> Maps. It's not a very good job.
    >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >> the center of Paris! The site is also designed more poorly and the
    >> response time is worse. If they can't do it right, why don't they
    >> just give up?
    >Does this site also display the French penchant for Flash...???

Flesh Gordon gRunge?
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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 7:24 pm
  #36  
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:03:37 +0200, Stanislas de Kertanguy
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic a émis l'idée suivante :
    >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >> the center of Paris!
    >Try with Argenton-sur-Creuse, or Pont-l'Evêque (in the Calvados dept)
    >...
    >You know, not every French lives in Paris. Géoportail was designed to
    >have an equal image quality throughout France, to the Louvre pyramid to
    >the smallest villages in the Morvan. Of course, when you compare big
    >cities, Google Earth wins by far.
    >And the images they use are not satellite ones, and they are true
    >color.

Not every user wants to change their settings of Norton Anti Virus or
McAfee to be able to see a photo.
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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 7:33 pm
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:15:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:28:43 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Leffe wrote:
    >>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
    >>> > Martin wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> > > On 25 Jul 2006 10:03:45 -0700, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> > >
    >>> > > >
    >>> > > >Jacqueline wrote:
    >>> > > >
    >>> > > >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:18:17 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> > > >>
    >>> > > >> >
    >>> > > >> ><Jacqueline> wrote:
    >>> > > >> >
    >>> > > >> >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:20:22 +0200, Martin <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>> > > >> >>
    >>> > > >> >> >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:38:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
    >><[email protected]>
    >>> > > >> >> >wrote:
    >>> > > >> >> >
    >>> > > >> >> >>Martin writes:
    >>> > > >> >> >>
    >>> > > >> >> >>> http://www.geoportail.fr
    >>> > > >> >> >>
    >>> > > >> >> >>In what was is it censored?
    >>> > > >> >> >
    >>> > > >> >> >Everything military has been snipped.
    >>> > > >> >> >
    >>> > > >> >> >Look at Cap La Hague nuclear reprocessing site with Geoportail
    >>and
    >>> > > >> >> >Google Earth.
    >>> > > >> >>
    >>> > > >> >> Wow....our Martin has a new job: a spy! His nickname? Porky 007
    >>> > > >> >>
    >>> > > >> >
    >>> > > >> >
    >>> > > >> >Have you been fitted with your new dutch cap yet, luv...???
    >>> > > >>
    >>> > > >> **** off...SCHWEIN!
    >>> > > >
    >>> > > >
    >>> > > >M'dear, you are just so very "soignee"...
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Porky & gRunge have had their trotters on her again.
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> > "A pig in a poke..."
    >>> >
    >>> shes crackling up :)
    >>Her face at least :o)
    >That's a Granny Smith apple in her mouth, not her lips.

Look in the mirror Martin...and you will see a poor old lunatic!
 
Old Jul 25th 2006 | 8:27 pm
  #38  
Martin
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:33:09 +0200, Joson <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:15:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:28:43 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Leffe wrote:
    >>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
    >>>> > Martin wrote:
    >>>> >
    >>>> > > On 25 Jul 2006 10:03:45 -0700, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> > >
    >>>> > > >
    >>>> > > >Jacqueline wrote:
    >>>> > > >
    >>>> > > >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:18:17 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> > > >>
    >>>> > > >> >
    >>>> > > >> ><Jacqueline> wrote:
    >>>> > > >> >
    >>>> > > >> >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:20:22 +0200, Martin <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>> > > >> >>
    >>>> > > >> >> >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:38:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
    >>><[email protected]>
    >>>> > > >> >> >wrote:
    >>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>> > > >> >> >>Martin writes:
    >>>> > > >> >> >>
    >>>> > > >> >> >>> http://www.geoportail.fr
    >>>> > > >> >> >>
    >>>> > > >> >> >>In what was is it censored?
    >>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>> > > >> >> >Everything military has been snipped.
    >>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>> > > >> >> >Look at Cap La Hague nuclear reprocessing site with Geoportail
    >>>and
    >>>> > > >> >> >Google Earth.
    >>>> > > >> >>
    >>>> > > >> >> Wow....our Martin has a new job: a spy! His nickname? Porky 007
    >>>> > > >> >>
    >>>> > > >> >
    >>>> > > >> >
    >>>> > > >> >Have you been fitted with your new dutch cap yet, luv...???
    >>>> > > >>
    >>>> > > >> **** off...SCHWEIN!
    >>>> > > >
    >>>> > > >
    >>>> > > >M'dear, you are just so very "soignee"...
    >>>> > >
    >>>> > > Porky & gRunge have had their trotters on her again.
    >>>> >
    >>>> >
    >>>> > "A pig in a poke..."
    >>>> >
    >>>> shes crackling up :)
    >>>Her face at least :o)
    >>That's a Granny Smith apple in her mouth, not her lips.
    > Look in the mirror Martin...and you will see a poor old lunatic!

Morning Mr. Hirsute Faced Jacqueline,

Did you fall out of bed early or did you wet it again?

What you see in your mirror is not necessarily what everybody sees.


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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 8:39 pm
  #39  
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:27:12 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:33:09 +0200, Joson <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:15:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:28:43 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Leffe wrote:
    >>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
    >>>>> > Martin wrote:
    >>>>> >
    >>>>> > > On 25 Jul 2006 10:03:45 -0700, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> > >
    >>>>> > > >
    >>>>> > > >Jacqueline wrote:
    >>>>> > > >
    >>>>> > > >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:18:17 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    >>>>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> > > >>
    >>>>> > > >> >
    >>>>> > > >> ><Jacqueline> wrote:
    >>>>> > > >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:20:22 +0200, Martin <[email protected]>
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>> > > >> >>
    >>>>> > > >> >> >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:38:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
    >>>><[email protected]>
    >>>>> > > >> >> >wrote:
    >>>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >> >>Martin writes:
    >>>>> > > >> >> >>
    >>>>> > > >> >> >>> http://www.geoportail.fr
    >>>>> > > >> >> >>
    >>>>> > > >> >> >>In what was is it censored?
    >>>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >> >Everything military has been snipped.
    >>>>> > > >> >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >> >Look at Cap La Hague nuclear reprocessing site with Geoportail
    >>>>and
    >>>>> > > >> >> >Google Earth.
    >>>>> > > >> >>
    >>>>> > > >> >> Wow....our Martin has a new job: a spy! His nickname? Porky 007
    >>>>> > > >> >>
    >>>>> > > >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >
    >>>>> > > >> >Have you been fitted with your new dutch cap yet, luv...???
    >>>>> > > >>
    >>>>> > > >> **** off...SCHWEIN!
    >>>>> > > >
    >>>>> > > >
    >>>>> > > >M'dear, you are just so very "soignee"...
    >>>>> > >
    >>>>> > > Porky & gRunge have had their trotters on her again.
    >>>>> >
    >>>>> >
    >>>>> > "A pig in a poke..."
    >>>>> >
    >>>>> shes crackling up :)
    >>>>Her face at least :o)
    >>>That's a Granny Smith apple in her mouth, not her lips.
    >> Look in the mirror Martin...and you will see a poor old lunatic!
    >Morning Mr. Hirsute Faced Jacqueline,
    >Did you fall out of bed early or did you wet it again?
    >What you see in your mirror is not necessarily what everybody sees.

poor, poor fellow.....you even are getting confused by the heat (I
suppose)! Or didn't you got your 'kwakkie' this night?
 
Old Jul 25th 2006 | 9:21 pm
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Stanislas de Kertanguy
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Mxsmanic a exprimé avec précision :
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> What is the link between cryptography and the free press ?
    > Both have been hindered by the military.

Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
_specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
free and when did the military begin to interfere ?

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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 9:29 pm
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Stanislas de Kertanguy
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Mxsmanic a exposé le 26/07/2006 :
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> You know, not every French lives in Paris.
    > Every French what?

Every French person. There are some people outside Paris, you know ?
So, did you try Argenton sur Creuse and many other little towns that
Google renders as grey patches ?

    >> Géoportail was designed to have an equal image quality throughout
    >> France, to the Louvre pyramid to the smallest villages in the
    >> Morvan. Of course, when you compare big cities, Google Earth wins by far.
    > Ah, so Géoportail has a secret database of ultra-high-resolution
    > images, and deliberately blurs them so that every square metre of
    > France looks like it was last photographed in 1952?

    >> And the images they use are not satellite ones, and they are true
    >> color.
    > So they _were_ photographed in 1952!

No, between 2001 and 2005. They are renewed every five years.

    > And I saw the very crude masking of some seaside facility in Le Havre.
    > I can't believe people are still doing that. Perhaps France is still
    > doing aerial photography from biplanes, but the bad guys have
    > satellites now, and the best satellites now can read your wristwatch
    > from altitude.

Yes. But are those photographs with wristwatch precision readily
available ?

Last thing, Mxsmanic : please STOP to consider that I stand for
everything French. I do not. I'm not vexed by your comments on the
so-called mediocrity of anything French. Please get it!

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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 9:31 pm
  #42  
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Après mûre réflexion, Martin a écrit :
    > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:03:37 +0200, Stanislas de Kertanguy
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Mxsmanic a émis l'idée suivante :
    >>> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    >>> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    >>> the center of Paris!
    >>
    >> Try with Argenton-sur-Creuse, or Pont-l'Evêque (in the Calvados dept)
    >> ...
    >>
    >> You know, not every French lives in Paris. Géoportail was designed to
    >> have an equal image quality throughout France, to the Louvre pyramid to
    >> the smallest villages in the Morvan. Of course, when you compare big
    >> cities, Google Earth wins by far.
    >>
    >> And the images they use are not satellite ones, and they are true
    >> color.
    > Not every user wants to change their settings of Norton Anti Virus or
    > McAfee to be able to see a photo.

Maybe, maybe! but I couldn't care less about the influence of
Géoportail on other users :)

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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 9:36 pm
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:29:39 +0200, Stanislas de Kertanguy
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Last thing, Mxsmanic : please STOP to consider that I stand for
    >everything French. I do not. I'm not vexed by your comments on the
    >so-called mediocrity of anything French. Please get it!

We are pissed off with his wingeing criticisms of all things European.
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Old Jul 25th 2006 | 9:38 pm
  #44  
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:31:45 +0200, Stanislas de Kertanguy
<[email protected]> wrote:


    >> Not every user wants to change their settings of Norton Anti Virus or
    >> McAfee to be able to see a photo.
    >Maybe, maybe! but I couldn't care less about the influence of
    >Géoportail on other users :)

Nor whoever made it apparently. Was it made with an EDS contract?

Having got it to work yesterday by changing NIS settings, today it
wouldn't work anymore.
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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 3:59 am
  #45  
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Martin wrote:

    > Morning Mr. Hirsute Faced Jacqueline,
    >
    > Did you fall out of bed early or did you wet it again?

Jacquasseline is more likely to have sh!t the bed, innit?

    > What you see in your mirror is not necessarily what everybody sees.

True. Most of us don't have to constantly replace cracked mirrors.
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