France Being Shafted By THE BOYCOT
Apr 16th 2003 | 10:53 am
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"eddy" wrote:
> U.S. Boycott Being Felt, French Say
> Wine Sales Off Sharply; Other Products Affected
> By Robert J. McCartney
> Washington Post Foreign Service
> Wednesday, April 16, 2003; Page A32
> PARIS, April 15 -- An American backlash against French products and
> businesses has started to bite, dashing hopes here that appeals in the
> United States to punish France economically for opposing the war in
> Iraq would go unheeded.
> American importers of French wine are reporting sharp drops in sales
> in the past two months, and other French products also have been
> affected. The Federation of Wine Exporters has called a meeting
> Thursday to discuss how to respond.
> The nation's principal business federation took the unusual step of
> publicly acknowledging the problem, conceding today that sales,
> recruitment and business contacts have been hurt. It appealed to
> consumers and businesses to keep political differences from affecting
> commerce.
> "Certain French enterprises are suffering today from the differences
> that have arisen among states over the Iraqi question," the Movement
> of French Enterprises (Medef) said. "It is necessary to say to those
> who are unhappy with the positions of French diplomacy that they are
> free to criticize, but they must keep products and services of our
> enterprises outside their quarrel."
> Medef President Ernest-Antoine Seilliere said at a news conference
> that the effects were "measured" but that contracts had been lost
> because of anti-French feeling in the United States. He declined to
> identify the companies affected.
> The business federation provided no figures on the effect on French
> exports to the United States, which last year were valued at $28.4
> billion.
> The French government and business community had hoped that U.S.
> "francophobia" would dissipate quickly without hurting trade. Both
> fear that French companies will be excluded from contracts in
> rebuilding Iraq.
> The widespread view in Paris had been that calls in the U.S. media and
> from some politicians for commercial retaliation against the French
> were having little or no effect.
> The news that the boycott is significant will also increase pressure
> on President Jacques Chirac from business and some members of his
> party to mend relations with Washington. Chirac's government has toned
> down its antiwar talk, and French officials have emphasized the need
> for pragmatism and moderation regarding sensitive issues such as how
> postwar Iraq is to be governed.
> Chirac telephoned President Bush yesterday. The leaders, speaking for
> the first time in two months, had what U.S. aides characterized as a
> "businesslike" conversation.
> The French Foreign Ministry today declined to comment on the French
> business federation's statement, saying the government didn't respond
> to private declarations. French officials, speaking on the condition
> of anonymity, reiterated their previous position that they didn't
> expect any significant reduction of business with the United States.
> They noted that while American tourism in France is down by about 20
> percent, it had dropped even more in Britain, whose troops also fought
> in Iraq.
> The American backlash apparently is having little or no impact on
> business with Germany, the other major European country that actively
> opposed the war. A survey by the Association of German Chambers of
> Commerce and Industry of more than 300 German companies doing business
> in the United States found no effect.
> "It could be that France's position is considered to be fundamental,
> and ours is considered to be more or less an accident, in connection
> with the elections we had last autumn," said Michael Rogowski,
> president of the Federation of German Industries in Berlin. He
> referred to Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's exploitation of antiwar
> sentiment to win reelection in September.
> German business groups and the German Embassy in the United States
> have scheduled a meeting in Washington next month with U.S. businesses
> and politicians to try to make sure that no difficulties arise in
> U.S.-German trade.
> U.S. importers of French products said the effect has been
> significant. Guillaume Touton, a Frenchman who is president of wine
> distributor Monsieur Touton Selection Ltd. in New York, said
> anti-French feeling cost him $500,000 in sales last month. French
> wines usually account for two-thirds of his business, but now his
> customers, mostly retail stores, want something else.
> "Typically, the guy says, 'No, I don't want French wine. Give me
> Spanish wine, Italian wine,' " said Touton, who has an office in
> Capitol Heights, Md.
> W.J. Deutsch & Sons Ltd. of White Plains, N.Y. -- the No. 1 U.S.
> importer of French wines, as measured by cases shipped -- said its
> sales dropped 10 percent in the past two months. Bill Deutsch, its
> president, wouldn't divulge specific figures but said his sales were
> down by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
> "We have seen French wines decreasing," Deutsch said. "We've seen
> stores take French wines off the floor of their store. We've seen
> major chains stop the advertising of French wines in their weekly
> ads." He reported substantial increases in sales of Italian,
> Australian and Spanish wines.
> Patricia Carreras, president of IC&A Inc., a home-decor business in
> New York that imports exclusively French products, said sales have
> been down 40 to 50 percent since February. Her small firm, with four
> employees, sells Limoges porcelain, hand-painted candles picturing
> Parisian scenes, and other French-oriented products to big mail-order
> houses and other large U.S. companies.
> "It's a very, very deep reaction," said Carreras, who is French. "We
> would never have expected something so lasting. I think it has been
> accelerating even in the last four weeks."
> The importers, angry and frustrated, said the government in Paris did
> not comprehend the effect of its war position on French businesses.
> Touton has tried to fight the trend by pledging to give $1 for every
> case of wine he sells to the USO to help U.S. troops in Iraq. He has
> done it for two weeks but it hasn't helped much. He said he thinks
> that business will pick up only when Chirac stops making anti-U.S.
> statements.
> "We want to send the message to the French side to please do
> something. Or, if you don't want to do anything, then please shut up,"
> Touton said.
> © 2003 The Washington Post Company
Thanks for posting this. And for those in this thread and in France, for
that matter, who take this lightly...well, suffice it to say that everyone I
know is and will continue to check each and every product label. If it is a
product of France, it stays on the shelf. France can expect that trend to
continue, hopefully at a great cost to them.
Since Chirac is backpedaling and is now trying to "mend broken fences" with
the US, France must fear *something*, otherwise, Chirac would not be eating
crow.
We in America have had enough of France arrogance and ignorance, and
regardless of the American governmental position regarding France, the
American citizens *will* continue this boycott.
Please feel free to boycott the US as well, especially in tourism...we don't
want you here.
> U.S. Boycott Being Felt, French Say
> Wine Sales Off Sharply; Other Products Affected
> By Robert J. McCartney
> Washington Post Foreign Service
> Wednesday, April 16, 2003; Page A32
> PARIS, April 15 -- An American backlash against French products and
> businesses has started to bite, dashing hopes here that appeals in the
> United States to punish France economically for opposing the war in
> Iraq would go unheeded.
> American importers of French wine are reporting sharp drops in sales
> in the past two months, and other French products also have been
> affected. The Federation of Wine Exporters has called a meeting
> Thursday to discuss how to respond.
> The nation's principal business federation took the unusual step of
> publicly acknowledging the problem, conceding today that sales,
> recruitment and business contacts have been hurt. It appealed to
> consumers and businesses to keep political differences from affecting
> commerce.
> "Certain French enterprises are suffering today from the differences
> that have arisen among states over the Iraqi question," the Movement
> of French Enterprises (Medef) said. "It is necessary to say to those
> who are unhappy with the positions of French diplomacy that they are
> free to criticize, but they must keep products and services of our
> enterprises outside their quarrel."
> Medef President Ernest-Antoine Seilliere said at a news conference
> that the effects were "measured" but that contracts had been lost
> because of anti-French feeling in the United States. He declined to
> identify the companies affected.
> The business federation provided no figures on the effect on French
> exports to the United States, which last year were valued at $28.4
> billion.
> The French government and business community had hoped that U.S.
> "francophobia" would dissipate quickly without hurting trade. Both
> fear that French companies will be excluded from contracts in
> rebuilding Iraq.
> The widespread view in Paris had been that calls in the U.S. media and
> from some politicians for commercial retaliation against the French
> were having little or no effect.
> The news that the boycott is significant will also increase pressure
> on President Jacques Chirac from business and some members of his
> party to mend relations with Washington. Chirac's government has toned
> down its antiwar talk, and French officials have emphasized the need
> for pragmatism and moderation regarding sensitive issues such as how
> postwar Iraq is to be governed.
> Chirac telephoned President Bush yesterday. The leaders, speaking for
> the first time in two months, had what U.S. aides characterized as a
> "businesslike" conversation.
> The French Foreign Ministry today declined to comment on the French
> business federation's statement, saying the government didn't respond
> to private declarations. French officials, speaking on the condition
> of anonymity, reiterated their previous position that they didn't
> expect any significant reduction of business with the United States.
> They noted that while American tourism in France is down by about 20
> percent, it had dropped even more in Britain, whose troops also fought
> in Iraq.
> The American backlash apparently is having little or no impact on
> business with Germany, the other major European country that actively
> opposed the war. A survey by the Association of German Chambers of
> Commerce and Industry of more than 300 German companies doing business
> in the United States found no effect.
> "It could be that France's position is considered to be fundamental,
> and ours is considered to be more or less an accident, in connection
> with the elections we had last autumn," said Michael Rogowski,
> president of the Federation of German Industries in Berlin. He
> referred to Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's exploitation of antiwar
> sentiment to win reelection in September.
> German business groups and the German Embassy in the United States
> have scheduled a meeting in Washington next month with U.S. businesses
> and politicians to try to make sure that no difficulties arise in
> U.S.-German trade.
> U.S. importers of French products said the effect has been
> significant. Guillaume Touton, a Frenchman who is president of wine
> distributor Monsieur Touton Selection Ltd. in New York, said
> anti-French feeling cost him $500,000 in sales last month. French
> wines usually account for two-thirds of his business, but now his
> customers, mostly retail stores, want something else.
> "Typically, the guy says, 'No, I don't want French wine. Give me
> Spanish wine, Italian wine,' " said Touton, who has an office in
> Capitol Heights, Md.
> W.J. Deutsch & Sons Ltd. of White Plains, N.Y. -- the No. 1 U.S.
> importer of French wines, as measured by cases shipped -- said its
> sales dropped 10 percent in the past two months. Bill Deutsch, its
> president, wouldn't divulge specific figures but said his sales were
> down by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
> "We have seen French wines decreasing," Deutsch said. "We've seen
> stores take French wines off the floor of their store. We've seen
> major chains stop the advertising of French wines in their weekly
> ads." He reported substantial increases in sales of Italian,
> Australian and Spanish wines.
> Patricia Carreras, president of IC&A Inc., a home-decor business in
> New York that imports exclusively French products, said sales have
> been down 40 to 50 percent since February. Her small firm, with four
> employees, sells Limoges porcelain, hand-painted candles picturing
> Parisian scenes, and other French-oriented products to big mail-order
> houses and other large U.S. companies.
> "It's a very, very deep reaction," said Carreras, who is French. "We
> would never have expected something so lasting. I think it has been
> accelerating even in the last four weeks."
> The importers, angry and frustrated, said the government in Paris did
> not comprehend the effect of its war position on French businesses.
> Touton has tried to fight the trend by pledging to give $1 for every
> case of wine he sells to the USO to help U.S. troops in Iraq. He has
> done it for two weeks but it hasn't helped much. He said he thinks
> that business will pick up only when Chirac stops making anti-U.S.
> statements.
> "We want to send the message to the French side to please do
> something. Or, if you don't want to do anything, then please shut up,"
> Touton said.
> © 2003 The Washington Post Company
Thanks for posting this. And for those in this thread and in France, for
that matter, who take this lightly...well, suffice it to say that everyone I
know is and will continue to check each and every product label. If it is a
product of France, it stays on the shelf. France can expect that trend to
continue, hopefully at a great cost to them.
Since Chirac is backpedaling and is now trying to "mend broken fences" with
the US, France must fear *something*, otherwise, Chirac would not be eating
crow.
We in America have had enough of France arrogance and ignorance, and
regardless of the American governmental position regarding France, the
American citizens *will* continue this boycott.
Please feel free to boycott the US as well, especially in tourism...we don't
want you here.
Apr 16th 2003 | 11:29 am
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>>> Marie Lewis 16/04/03 22:18:28 >>>
In article , "[AGW]Pist"
writes
>>In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor numbers
>>from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn in
>>the US economy over the previous 6 months.
>>It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the rest
>>of us then.
>>Who said war was all bad?
>France should have thought about all this shit before the war.
>**** 'em.
This "person" obviously is a thick as the proverbial two short planks.
--
Marie Lewis
On the contrary, he's got it right in perspective
It's the French who have been painfully thick and they deserve to feel the full impact of a backlash
I shall be doing my bit to kick em in the balls as hard as I can !
In article , "[AGW]Pist"
writes
>>In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor numbers
>>from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn in
>>the US economy over the previous 6 months.
>>It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the rest
>>of us then.
>>Who said war was all bad?
>France should have thought about all this shit before the war.
>**** 'em.
This "person" obviously is a thick as the proverbial two short planks.
--
Marie Lewis
On the contrary, he's got it right in perspective
It's the French who have been painfully thick and they deserve to feel the full impact of a backlash
I shall be doing my bit to kick em in the balls as hard as I can !
Apr 16th 2003 | 11:58 am
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Thanks for posting this. And for those in this thread and in France, for
that matter, who take this lightly...well, suffice it to say that everyone I
know is and will continue to check each and every product label. If it is a
product of France, it stays on the shelf. France can expect that trend to
continue, hopefully at a great cost to them.
Since Chirac is backpedaling and is now trying to "mend broken fences" with
the US, France must fear *something*, otherwise, Chirac would not be eating
crow.
We in America have had enough of France arrogance and ignorance, and
regardless of the American governmental position regarding France, the
American citizens *will* continue this boycott.
Please feel free to boycott the US as well, especially in tourism...we don't
want you here.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
And most of us in Europe, including the ten new nations from Eastern Europe signing up today, have also had enough of French arrogance and ignorance" and their attempts to impose their opinions on other member states, tarnishing us with their dreadful reputation.
We don't agree with France and we'll show our disgust by also boycotting French goods.
If you guys in France want to reciprocate you're going to find it hard to be noticed, since you've been actively boycotting UK goods for decades !
An ally that can't be relied on for support, is an ally that we can all do without.
Over and over again the French have proved they cannot be trusted.
They are selfish and are only interested in profitable ventures.
The French were happy to allow Saddam to continue in power for as long as possible, because they were profiting from lucrative oil deals though Elf.
They cared not that Iraqis were being raped, tortured and killed on a daily basis, just so long as they made more profit.
I'm so disgusted with the continued unapologetic immoral attitude from France, and the "don't care" pro French correspondence in this newsgroup, that I shall now be removing all French made products from my company's approved list of suppliers when I return to the office after Easter.
that matter, who take this lightly...well, suffice it to say that everyone I
know is and will continue to check each and every product label. If it is a
product of France, it stays on the shelf. France can expect that trend to
continue, hopefully at a great cost to them.
Since Chirac is backpedaling and is now trying to "mend broken fences" with
the US, France must fear *something*, otherwise, Chirac would not be eating
crow.
We in America have had enough of France arrogance and ignorance, and
regardless of the American governmental position regarding France, the
American citizens *will* continue this boycott.
Please feel free to boycott the US as well, especially in tourism...we don't
want you here.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
And most of us in Europe, including the ten new nations from Eastern Europe signing up today, have also had enough of French arrogance and ignorance" and their attempts to impose their opinions on other member states, tarnishing us with their dreadful reputation.
We don't agree with France and we'll show our disgust by also boycotting French goods.
If you guys in France want to reciprocate you're going to find it hard to be noticed, since you've been actively boycotting UK goods for decades !
An ally that can't be relied on for support, is an ally that we can all do without.
Over and over again the French have proved they cannot be trusted.
They are selfish and are only interested in profitable ventures.
The French were happy to allow Saddam to continue in power for as long as possible, because they were profiting from lucrative oil deals though Elf.
They cared not that Iraqis were being raped, tortured and killed on a daily basis, just so long as they made more profit.
I'm so disgusted with the continued unapologetic immoral attitude from France, and the "don't care" pro French correspondence in this newsgroup, that I shall now be removing all French made products from my company's approved list of suppliers when I return to the office after Easter.
Apr 16th 2003 | 12:26 pm
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> We'll have more choices at better prices. :-))
I guess that's why Chirac called Bush yesterday (not the other way around). Just to tell him
that. Well said Magda.Doug Burke
I guess that's why Chirac called Bush yesterday (not the other way around). Just to tell him
that. Well said Magda.Doug Burke
Apr 16th 2003 | 1:17 pm
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France Being Shafted By BOYCOTT. Americans Attacked in Paris! The French are smelly vermin
"Ian Millward" wrote in message news:...
> In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor numbers
> from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn in
> the US economy over the previous 6 months.
>
> It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the rest
> of us then.
>
> Who said war was all bad?
I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
Americans still going there.
I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
> In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor numbers
> from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn in
> the US economy over the previous 6 months.
>
> It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the rest
> of us then.
>
> Who said war was all bad?
I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
Americans still going there.
I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
Apr 16th 2003 | 1:39 pm
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"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
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> You'll be glad to learn that there are people in Europe calling for a
> boycott of American and British products. Those are probably the same
> people that called for a boycott of French products a couple of years back
> because of the atom bomb tests. I'm trying to follow all of this, but I'm
> getting dizzy. You political correct folks of the world sure change your
> targets fast.
It is just a matter of principles and safety. Muslims certainly will not
want to
go to US but France looks OK now. Similarly for investments.
I love France and will like to visit this place once the world has learned
enough
about SARS.
Boycotting anything is bad for world economy but safety is above all.
We must avoid unsafe places at all costs.
> --
> It's The Economy, Stupid
news:[email protected]...
> You'll be glad to learn that there are people in Europe calling for a
> boycott of American and British products. Those are probably the same
> people that called for a boycott of French products a couple of years back
> because of the atom bomb tests. I'm trying to follow all of this, but I'm
> getting dizzy. You political correct folks of the world sure change your
> targets fast.
It is just a matter of principles and safety. Muslims certainly will not
want to
go to US but France looks OK now. Similarly for investments.
I love France and will like to visit this place once the world has learned
enough
about SARS.
Boycotting anything is bad for world economy but safety is above all.
We must avoid unsafe places at all costs.
> --
> It's The Economy, Stupid
Apr 16th 2003 | 2:03 pm
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"I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The rough
translation is essentially city or home of parasites"
Gosh, that is just SOOO clever!!! Is there anything else you hear from the
voices in your head?
BTW, how do you pit on someone?
"Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ian Millward" wrote in message
news:...
> > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
numbers
> > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
in
> > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> >
> > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
rest
> > of us then.
> >
> > Who said war was all bad?
> I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> Americans still going there.
> I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
translation is essentially city or home of parasites"
Gosh, that is just SOOO clever!!! Is there anything else you hear from the
voices in your head?
BTW, how do you pit on someone?
"Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ian Millward" wrote in message
news:...
> > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
numbers
> > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
in
> > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> >
> > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
rest
> > of us then.
> >
> > Who said war was all bad?
> I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> Americans still going there.
> I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
Apr 16th 2003 | 2:05 pm
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its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money to
a bunch of liars & cheats.
"Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
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> "Ian Millward" wrote in message
news:...
> > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
numbers
> > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
in
> > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> >
> > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
rest
> > of us then.
> >
> > Who said war was all bad?
> I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> Americans still going there.
> I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
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a bunch of liars & cheats.
"Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
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> "Ian Millward" wrote in message
news:...
> > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
numbers
> > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
in
> > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> >
> > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
rest
> > of us then.
> >
> > Who said war was all bad?
> I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> Americans still going there.
> I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
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Apr 16th 2003 | 2:05 pm
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"Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad" wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> It is just a matter of principles and safety. Muslims certainly will
> not want to go to US
Why not? How many muslims live there safely=
> but France looks OK now. Similarly for investments.
What has changed about France that makes it "safer" (or "unsafer"), either
for living or investments? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
> I love France and will like to visit this place once the world has
> learned enough about SARS.
What does that have to do with anything?
> Boycotting anything is bad for world economy but safety is above all.
> We must avoid unsafe places at all costs.
The whole world is unsafe.
--
It's The Economy, Stupid
news:[email protected]:
> It is just a matter of principles and safety. Muslims certainly will
> not want to go to US
Why not? How many muslims live there safely=
> but France looks OK now. Similarly for investments.
What has changed about France that makes it "safer" (or "unsafer"), either
for living or investments? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
> I love France and will like to visit this place once the world has
> learned enough about SARS.
What does that have to do with anything?
> Boycotting anything is bad for world economy but safety is above all.
> We must avoid unsafe places at all costs.
The whole world is unsafe.
--
It's The Economy, Stupid
Apr 16th 2003 | 2:23 pm
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"genie" wrote in message
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> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
Liars and cheats? I trust them more than georgie girl and rushie and the
right wing cabal put together
news:[email protected]...
> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
Liars and cheats? I trust them more than georgie girl and rushie and the
right wing cabal put together
Apr 16th 2003 | 2:25 pm
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:50:37 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:
>"[AGW]Pist" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> France should have thought about all this
>> shit before the war.
>France had no control over the world economy or international terrorists.
France HAD control of how they did NOT want to support the U.S. and
Britain.
**** 'em.
wrote:
>"[AGW]Pist" a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected]...
>> France should have thought about all this
>> shit before the war.
>France had no control over the world economy or international terrorists.
France HAD control of how they did NOT want to support the U.S. and
Britain.
**** 'em.
Apr 16th 2003 | 2:26 pm
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Re: France Being Shafted By BOYCOTT. Americans Attacked in Paris! The French are smelly vermin
That narrows your travelling options quite a lot, doesn't it? Let's see,
where could you go - the Vatican, perhaps?
"genie" wrote in message
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> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
> "Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Ian Millward" wrote in message
> news:...
> > > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
> numbers
> > > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
> in
> > > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> > >
> > > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
> rest
> > > of us then.
> > >
> > > Who said war was all bad?
> >
> > I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> > Americans still going there.
> >
> > I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> > rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
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where could you go - the Vatican, perhaps?
"genie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
> "Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Ian Millward" wrote in message
> news:...
> > > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
> numbers
> > > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant downturn
> in
> > > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> > >
> > > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for the
> rest
> > > of us then.
> > >
> > > Who said war was all bad?
> >
> > I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> > Americans still going there.
> >
> > I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> > rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
> ---
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Apr 16th 2003 | 2:47 pm
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Re: France Being Shafted By BOYCOTT. Americans Attacked in Paris! The French are smelly vermin
Lol Yes, I guess it does. Still, its a much nicer holiday when people smile
when they take your money.
"GW" wrote in message
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> That narrows your travelling options quite a lot, doesn't it? Let's see,
> where could you go - the Vatican, perhaps?
> "genie" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
> to
> > a bunch of liars & cheats.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Ian Millward" wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
> > numbers
> > > > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant
downturn
> > in
> > > > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> > > >
> > > > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for
the
> > rest
> > > > of us then.
> > > >
> > > > Who said war was all bad?
> > >
> > > I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> > > Americans still going there.
> > >
> > > I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> > > rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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> >
> >
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when they take your money.
"GW" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That narrows your travelling options quite a lot, doesn't it? Let's see,
> where could you go - the Vatican, perhaps?
> "genie" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give our money
> to
> > a bunch of liars & cheats.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Ian Millward" wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > > In my paper this morning there was an article saying that visitor
> > numbers
> > > > from the US were 11% down in Paris because of the significant
downturn
> > in
> > > > the US economy over the previous 6 months.
> > > >
> > > > It seems like Paris in the Spring is a much better proposition for
the
> > rest
> > > > of us then.
> > > >
> > > > Who said war was all bad?
> > >
> > > I heard the French are still pitting on and cursing at the few
> > > Americans still going there.
> > >
> > > I heard the word Paris was derived from the word "parasite." The
> > > rough translation is essentially city or home of parasites.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003
> >
> >
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Apr 16th 2003 | 4:32 pm
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Re: France Being Shafted By BOYCOTT. Americans Attacked in Paris! ThQ
In article
"genie" wrote:
> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give
our money to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
The fewer Americans in Europe, the better.
"genie" wrote:
> its not because we can't afford to go. We don't choose to give
our money to
> a bunch of liars & cheats.
The fewer Americans in Europe, the better.
Apr 16th 2003 | 5:07 pm
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Re: France Being Shafted By THE BOYCOT
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:26:37 -0400, in rec.travel.europe, Doug Burke
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > We'll have more choices at better prices. :-))
...
... I guess that's why Chirac called Bush yesterday (not the other way around). Just to tell him
... that. Well said Magda.Doug Burke
...
Still full of yourself, Doug ?
Reminds me of the frog who wanted to be as big as the bull...
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > We'll have more choices at better prices. :-))
...
... I guess that's why Chirac called Bush yesterday (not the other way around). Just to tell him
... that. Well said Magda.Doug Burke
...
Still full of yourself, Doug ?
Reminds me of the frog who wanted to be as big as the bull...
