PaPaPeng writes:

    > Kirstie Alley should make an excellent poster girl and advocate for
    > the rights of overweight people.

Overweight people have the same rights as everyone else. In fact, they
pay less for airline seats than normal people do, pound for pound.

    > No one wants to be overweight.

But some people aren't bothered enough by their own obesity to stop
overeating, and that's their own fault.

    > If they are they should not be punished for being so.

Requiring them to meet the same restrictions as everyone else isn't
punishment. If they find the restrictions inconvenient, they can lose
weight.

    > Anyway who says they are overweight.

I'd say that 127 kg is obese for a woman unless she's three metres tall.

    > If what the statistics say is true more than 50% of the population is
    > larger and heavier.

Fat, you mean.

    > Then they are the majority and the norm.

That doesn't make obesity a good thing.

    > In that case all public transport must fit their size.

Why?

    > The smaller size people are the minority and therefore below norm.

Normal weight isn't small.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:15:34 GMT, George Max
<[email protected]> wrote:

    |>"I am overweight, but I'm not obese," said Thompson, 127kg.


No, not obese. Grossly obese. In US terms that's 280 lbs. I'm a 6'
tall male and was obese at 117kg(257); I'm still overweight at
95kg(209).

Among her myriad medical problems (many of which haven't yet been
diagnosed) the most serious one is denial.

Unless, as Miguel implied, she's a starter in a ladies pro basketball
team.


Cheers, Alan

On 2005-03-13, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony Matonak <[email protected]>
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
    > ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method isn't going to
    > ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can make
    > ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start shipping
    > ... people as baggage.
    > Or make larger seats and increase their prices...

They do - it's called "First Class".

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On 13 Mar 2005 12:47:52 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Ed Clarke <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :

... On 2005-03-13, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
... > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony Matonak <[email protected]>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
... > ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method isn't going to
... > ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can make
... > ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start shipping
... > ... people as baggage.
... >
... > Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
...
... They do - it's called "First Class".

Not in the entire airplane.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:26:51 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Anthony Matonak writes:
    >> Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
    >> downsizing seats to cut costs.
    >No, the problem is with fat passengers. Normal people can still fit
    >into the seats.

As somebody pointed out fat is a normal as thin.
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:05:51 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 13 Mar 2005 12:47:52 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Ed Clarke <[email protected]> arranged
    >some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... On 2005-03-13, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ... > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony Matonak <[email protected]>
    > ... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... >
    > ... > ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
    > ... > ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method isn't going to
    > ... > ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can make
    > ... > ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start shipping
    > ... > ... people as baggage.
    > ... >
    > ... > Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
    > ...
    > ... They do - it's called "First Class".
    >Not in the entire airplane.

First class doesn't exist in most European flights.
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Magda writes:

    > Not in the entire airplane.

There aren't enough first-class customers to fill the airplane.

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nitram writes:

    > As somebody pointed out fat is a normal as thin.

Then why does fat produce so many more health problems than thin?

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:23:13 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> As somebody pointed out fat is a normal as thin.
    >Then why does fat produce so many more health problems than thin?

Something to do with sex?
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:23:13 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> As somebody pointed out fat is a normal as thin.
    >Then why does fat produce so many more health problems than thin?

What's the connection between health and the average size of
passengers?
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nitram writes:

    > Something to do with sex?

No. Obesity is fundamentally stressful to health status. A long list
of diseases are either aggravated or caused by obesity.

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nitram writes:

    > What's the connection between health and the average size of
    > passengers?

None, but something that is detrimental to health is manifestly not the
normal state for human beings.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:56:03 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> What's the connection between health and the average size of
    >> passengers?
    >None, but something that is detrimental to health is manifestly not the
    >normal state for human beings.

The younger the obese die the more room there is on planes for those
with the physique of a fashion model.

Average people sizes used by aircraft builders, lift makers etc. are
obsolete.
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    > ... > Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
    > ...
    > ... They do - it's called "First Class".
    > Not in the entire airplane.


Depends on the airline...

    > "But he kept dozing and when he slept, his elbow kept hitting my chest."

I'd pick his fat arm up and throw it back onto him. He'd probably
wake up (who cares?) and if he asked I'd tell him what happened.
I suspect women might find this approach too confrontational, though.

    > "I am overweight, but I'm not obese," said Thompson, 127kg.

Mentioning her weight is not enough. At 280 pounds, even if she
is tall, she would still be fat. If she is short, she would be grossly
obese. No woman should weigh that much.

    > "I guess I'm just a fat, black woman

Oh sure, play the race card. It is totally irrelevant that she is black.
The only relevant fact is that she is obese.


Pete