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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:45:25 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:26:09 +0100, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
    >Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony
    >>Matonak <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
    >>like this :
    >> ... Catharine wrote:
    >> ... ...
    >> ... > However, the problem came at a tough time for cash-strapped
    >> airlines trying ... > to shrink costs.
    >> ... ...
    >> ... > "Planes are more packed and there are fewer (available)
    >> seats," said Funk. ... > Many of the airlines are downsizing
    >> seats, she said.
    >> ...
    >> ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the
    >> airlines ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method
    >> isn't going to ... work for much longer because there is a limit
    >> to how small you can make ... a seat and still put passengers in
    >> it. Perhaps they can start shipping ... people as baggage.
    >>Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
    >They had trouble fitting the boated bodies of westerners into
    >coffins in thailand and indonesia.

I think that your lack of proper nutrition as a child warped your
brain.

LV

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PaPaPeng wrote:

    > No one wants to be overweight. If they are they should not be
    > punished for being so.


instead, let's punish the person squashed into the seat next to them,
dealing with the overflow of fatass into their space?
Sux to be the person dealing with it, but if you're taking up two seats,
you have to pay for them. You always have the option to lose weight or
not fly. Or first class, where the seats are bigger.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:07:31 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, Felix Dzerzhinsky <"Kristian
Damgaard" <[email protected]> > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... On a related topic, I would love to see the airlines ENFORCE THE CARRY ON
... LUGGAGE RULES!! I am sick and tired of people taking half of all their worldly
... possessions on board, while the cabin staff ignore the breach of this
... important safety rule. No wonder the overhead bins are full. Make these
... passengers pay through the nose for excess baggage, and perhaps the airlines
... will then make some money, since they will not be overloaded with both fat
... swine, and excess carry-on freight!!

Since a business trip was half ruined because they lost my luggage, I learned to carry all
the important things with me - at least when going somewhere. If it's the return trip I
don't care, I have all I need at home.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:07:41 -0600, Lady Veteran <[email protected]>
wrote:

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    >On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:45:25 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
    >>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:26:09 +0100, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
    >>Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony
    >>>Matonak <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
    >>>like this :
    >>> ... Catharine wrote:
    >>> ... ...
    >>> ... > However, the problem came at a tough time for cash-strapped
    >>> airlines trying ... > to shrink costs.
    >>> ... ...
    >>> ... > "Planes are more packed and there are fewer (available)
    >>> seats," said Funk. ... > Many of the airlines are downsizing
    >>> seats, she said.
    >>> ...
    >>> ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the
    >>> airlines ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method
    >>> isn't going to ... work for much longer because there is a limit
    >>> to how small you can make ... a seat and still put passengers in
    >>> it. Perhaps they can start shipping ... people as baggage.
    >>>Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
    >>They had trouble fitting the boated bodies of westerners into
    >>coffins in thailand and indonesia.
    >I think that your lack of proper nutrition as a child warped your
    >brain.
    >LV

Does the picture in the following link represent your idea of someone
who received proper nutrition? Could that be one of your boyfirends.

    >http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2004/...d-on-table.jpg


Jeffrey

nitram wrote:

    > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:26:51 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Anthony Matonak writes:
    >>>Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
    >>>downsizing seats to cut costs.
    >>No, the problem is with fat passengers. Normal people can still fit
    >>into the seats.
    >
    >
    > As somebody pointed out fat is a normal as thin.

On my last flight, home from Martinique, while trying unsuccessfully to
get some sleep I started wondering if airlines would let normal sized
passengers buy two seats just to be more comfortable. It still would
cost way less than business or first class.

Shipping people as baggage would eliminate the need for the intense
security screenings before flights. Maybe they could just sedate us
all and ship us unconscious so we wouldn't realize we were crowded.

C.C.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:46:50 -0800, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:09:43 +1100, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "Rod Speed"
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >> ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can make
... >> ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start shipping
... >> ... people as baggage.
... >>
... >> Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
... >
... >Or charge the hippos for two seats.
... >
...
... And give them two meals.

And some time later we charge them for three seats and give them three meals.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

    >>>> work for much longer because there is a limit to how
    >>>> small you can make a seat and still put passengers in it.
    >>>> Perhaps they can start shipping people as baggage.

    >>> Or make larger seats and increase their prices...

    >> Or charge the hippos for two seats.

    > And give them two meals.

Sure.

And a trough to eat them out of if they pay extra for that.

"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:46:50 -0800, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
    > arranged some
    > electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:09:43 +1100, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "Rod
    > Speed"
    > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ...
    > ... >> ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can
    > make
    > ... >> ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start
    > shipping
    > ... >> ... people as baggage.
    > ... >>
    > ... >> Or make larger seats and increase their prices...
    > ... >
    > ... >Or charge the hippos for two seats.
    > ... >
    > ...
    > ... And give them two meals.
    > And some time later we charge them for three seats and give them three meals.

Perfectly reasonable if they take up more than 2 seats.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:26:09 +0100, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Magda
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:00:06 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Anthony Matonak
    >><[email protected]>
    >>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >> ... Catharine wrote:
    >> ... ...
    >> ... > However, the problem came at a tough time for cash-strapped airlines
    >> trying
    >> ... > to shrink costs.
    >> ... ...
    >> ... > "Planes are more packed and there are fewer (available) seats," said
    >> Funk.
    >> ... > Many of the airlines are downsizing seats, she said.
    >> ...
    >> ... Sounds like the problem isn't with the passengers but with the airlines
    >> ... downsizing seats to cut costs. Ultimately this method isn't going to
    >> ... work for much longer because there is a limit to how small you can make
    >> ... a seat and still put passengers in it. Perhaps they can start shipping
    >> ... people as baggage.
    >>Or make larger seats and increase their prices...

    > They had trouble fitting the boated bodies of
    > westerners into coffins in thailand and indonesia.

And they couldnt just burn the corpses, the
stench would have killed many many more.

[email protected] writes:

    > They had trouble fitting the boated bodies of westerners into coffins in
    > thailand and indonesia.

All dead bodies tend to bloat significantly under the right conditions,
especially after exposure to water.

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Joan McGalliard <jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
    > news:1gtdjxs.1b52uvq1cqpow8N%jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au...
    > > Catharine <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > >> Southwest's policy is to charge for an extra
    > >> seat only if the plane is full, Stewart said.
    >
    > > This doesn't make sense.
    >
    > Corse it does. If the plane is full, they could have sold the
    > extra seat the lard arse occupys as well as the one it bought.

Ahem. Did you read the original article? She was asked to buy another
seat after she was on board the plane. If the plane was full, what seat
was she supposed to buy?

    >
    > > If the plane was full, what magical seat was she supposed to pay for?
    >
    > You blonde ?

Wow, 1980's insults. How quaint.

--
Joan McGalliard, UK http://www.mcgalliard.org

Joan McGalliard <jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au> wrote:
    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Corse it does. If the plane is full, they could have sold the
    >> extra seat the lard arse occupys as well as the one it bought.
    > Ahem. Did you read the original article? She was asked to buy another
    > seat after she was on board the plane. If the plane was full, what seat
    > was she supposed to buy?

What happens is that Southwest requires very large passengers to pay for two
seats, then if the flight does not end up being full, they get their money
back for the second seat. The idea is that if the airline can't carry
another passenger because of it, that seat still gets paid for.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 35 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Malaysia, Israel, Palestine, Austria, Thailand

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:07:31 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky <"Kristian
Damgaard" <[email protected]> > wrote:

    >I agree with airlines, that fat slobs such as those over 220 pounds, should
    >have to pay for 2 seats!!

Indeed they should. If they are enjoying the benefits of essentially
occupying more than one seat, they should pay for it. If these
voluminous passengers feel they should not pay for services rendered,
then (at a minimum) the person whose space they are invading should
receive a deep discount, as they are *not* receiving the services they
paid for (ie, so many cm of ass space).

It seems logical to me that airlines should require foreknowledge of a
passenger's height/weight prior to seat assignment (just as they have
size/weight requirement for luggage). This should serve not only to
assess seating charges for the obese, but to give airlines statistical
input on how best to serve the flying public. Depending on the
numbers, it may mean that airlines need to create a "fat-ass section"
in their aircraft, where the obese can sit comfortably in coach (and
pay for the privilege). It may mean that airlines will simply require
the obese to purchase two seats. It may mean that all seats will be
widened and all airfares increased.

This can all be determined only if we have the numbers to make smart
decisions. Currently, all we have are obese passengers with a sense of
entitlement and angry HWP passengers who feel cheated out of a
reasonably comfortable flight.

    >On a related topic, I would love to see the airlines ENFORCE THE CARRY ON
    >LUGGAGE RULES!!

I admit that I have recently been guilty of this sin. After losing my
luggage twice in two successive trips (Continental and United, a few
years ago), I have taken to traveling extremely light and abusing the
carry-on rules. But my recent flight from BWI-SEA was such a laughable
circus of carry-on nightmares that I have vowed to change my ways.
Next month, I'm taking a business trip to Las Vegas. I will put all my
clothes and toilet kit in a checked bag and carry on only the
electronics I need for business. Upon arrival in Las Vegas, if my bag
is lost or looted by the TSA, I will simply go to Macy's and buy a few
days' worth of clothes. **** it.

The cornerstone of a civilized society is altruism. We should be
willing to make humble sacrifices for each other and keep our egos in
check. If the obese can make efforts to mitigate their impact on
fellow passengers, we business fliers can make efforts to mitigate
inconvenience to others as well. What do you say, fatties?

- TR
- checking my damn bag.

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] writes

    >> They had trouble fitting the boated bodies of
    >> westerners into coffins in thailand and indonesia.

    > All dead bodies tend to bloat significantly under the right conditions,

And presumably the coffins they use allow for that with other than western
hippos.

    > especially after exposure to water.

Not for that sort of short term exposure to water.

There werent that many westerners who ended up under water for that long.

And that doesnt affect the bloating anyway,
its the internal decomposition that does that.