Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :

> (For all you know, I might be a nubile
>twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
>vivid imagination!)

I live in hope !

--
Tim C.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:23:24 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
>
>> (For all you know, I might be a nubile
>>twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
>>vivid imagination!)
>
>I live in hope !

I vividly imagined her first :-)
--

Martin

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:34:30 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:23:24 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
... >
... >> (For all you know, I might be a nubile
... >>twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
... >>vivid imagination!)
... >
... >I live in hope !
...
... I vividly imagined her first :-)

No fights over girls in this kindergarten!!

Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
>
> > (For all you know, I might be a nubile
> >twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
> >vivid imagination!)
>
> I live in hope !

Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed that
much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many soldiers as
died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many non-americans
(massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've overstayed
visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living, I
don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war too,
and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm not
budging though!

--
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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:36:03 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
>>
>> > (For all you know, I might be a nubile
>> >twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
>> >vivid imagination!)
>>
>> I live in hope !
>
>Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
>Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
>someone who obviously isn't going to do it.

A bit like the guy, who will never go to the USA, but ...

--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:36:03 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
> >>
> >> > (For all you know, I might be a nubile
> >> >twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
> >> >vivid imagination!)
> >>
> >> I live in hope !
> >
> >Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
> >Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
> >someone who obviously isn't going to do it.
>
> A bit like the guy, who will never go to the USA, but ...

Who's that guy?

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:00:04 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:36:03 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
>> >>
>> >> > (For all you know, I might be a nubile
>> >> >twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
>> >> >vivid imagination!)
>> >>
>> >> I live in hope !
>> >
>> >Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
>> >Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
>> >someone who obviously isn't going to do it.
>>
>> A bit like the guy, who will never go to the USA, but ...
>
>Who's that guy?

You are joking?
--

Martin

JohnT wrote:

> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>I hope you don't actually BELIEVE everything people write about themselves
>>on newsgroups! How do you know they are not practicing their
>>fiction-writing skills, or simply fantasizing? (For all you know, I might
>>be a nubile twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a vivid
>>imagination!)
>
>
> I can understand the part about the vivid imagination but, as for the other
> elements, I can only suggest that nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

I agree that one is more likely to err in the direction of
idealizing one's powers of attraction, but with a "vivid
imagination" a would-be writer of fiction may carry it to
the other extreme, too.

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

> Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> :
>>
>>
>>>(For all you know, I might be a nubile
>>>twenty-something with an above average vocabulary and a
>>>vivid imagination!)
>>
>>I live in hope !
>
>
> Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
> Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
> someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
> downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed that
> much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many soldiers as
> died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many non-americans
> (massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've overstayed
> visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living, I
> don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
> frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war too,
> and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm not
> budging though!

The problem is that, when faced with the actual
practicalities, it is not easy to uproot oneself unless one
is still very young - especially if one is not personally
impacted by one's government's policies. (And even then -
how many German Jews believed, until too late, that Hitler
could not possibly intend to carry through with his
proclaimed intentions?)

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
[]
> > Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
> > Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
> > someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
> > downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed that
> > much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many soldiers as
> > died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many non-americans
> > (massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've overstayed
> > visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living, I
> > don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
> > frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war too,
> > and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm not
> > budging though!
>
> The problem is that, when faced with the actual
> practicalities, it is not easy to uproot oneself unless one
> is still very young -

Keep telling yourself that!

> especially if one is not personally
> impacted by one's government's policies. (And even then -
> how many German Jews believed, until too late, that Hitler
> could not possibly intend to carry through with his
> proclaimed intentions?)

Oh, puhleez!

I need to open the window- there's a lot of hot air.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:28:29 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>[]
>> > Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
>> > Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
>> > someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
>> > downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed that
>> > much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many soldiers as
>> > died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many non-americans
>> > (massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've overstayed
>> > visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living, I
>> > don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
>> > frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war too,
>> > and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm not
>> > budging though!
>>
>> The problem is that, when faced with the actual
>> practicalities, it is not easy to uproot oneself unless one
>> is still very young -
>
>Keep telling yourself that!
>
>> especially if one is not personally
>> impacted by one's government's policies. (And even then -
>> how many German Jews believed, until too late, that Hitler
>> could not possibly intend to carry through with his
>> proclaimed intentions?)
>
>Oh, puhleez!
>
>I need to open the window- there's a lot of hot air.

You have a Mixi bug?
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:28:29 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
[]
> >Oh, puhleez!
> >
> >I need to open the window- there's a lot of hot air.
>
> You have a Mixi bug?

And an allergy to trivially invoking Nazis! Now you mention it, it is
unusually warm here- I'll eat out more on what I saved on the heating
bills!

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> The problem is that, when faced with the actual practicalities, it is not
> easy to uproot oneself unless one is still very young - especially if one
> is not personally impacted by one's government's policies. (And even
> then - how many German Jews believed, until too late, that Hitler could
> not possibly intend to carry through with his proclaimed intentions?)

Hitler and his crew and Stalin and his crew were the embodiment of evil. The
United States has been suffering from an excess of paranoia since late 2001,
and the situation has not been helped by the fact that their Head of State
is rather dim. There is no basis for comparison with Germany in the 1930s.

JohnT

In article <1hs20zs.1viqf6t1tefaneN%[email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

> *From:* [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*))
> *Date:* Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:28:29 +0000
>
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> []
> > > Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
> > > Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot,
> > > for
> > > someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
> > > downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed
> > > that
> > > much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many
> > > soldiers as
> > > died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many
> > > non-americans
> > > (massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've
> > > overstayed
> > > visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living,
> > > I
> > > don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
> > > frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war
> > > too,
> > > and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm
> > > not
> > > budging though!
> >
> > The problem is that, when faced with the actual
> > practicalities, it is not easy to uproot oneself unless one
> > is still very young -
>
> Keep telling yourself that!

A relative of mine moved from the UK to India - a country he had visited
but never /lived/ in before - at the age of 72. (He did keep a home in the
UK too, but it shows it's not impossible.)

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
> []
>
>>>Well, _someone_ does! I kind of do understand Jesper's point though-
>>>Evelyn does seem to bring up the subject of moving to Europe a lot, for
>>>someone who obviously isn't going to do it. Other than an economic
>>>downturn in some parts, I don't really see life as having changed that
>>>much for Americans post 9/11, other than having lost as many soldiers as
>>>died on that day. It's had horrific repercussions for many non-americans
>>>(massive crackdown on mostly latin-american immigrants who've overstayed
>>>visas etc.) and I don't excuse any of it, but in day to day living, I
>>>don't see much difference whenever I'm there, which is relatively
>>>frequently. "My" country's government took part in this awful war too,
>>>and is certainly just as paranoid as the US- perhaps more so. I'm not
>>>budging though!
>>
>>The problem is that, when faced with the actual
>>practicalities, it is not easy to uproot oneself unless one
>>is still very young -
>
>
> Keep telling yourself that!
>
>
>>especially if one is not personally
>>impacted by one's government's policies. (And even then -
>>how many German Jews believed, until too late, that Hitler
>>could not possibly intend to carry through with his
>>proclaimed intentions?)
>
>
> Oh, puhleez!
>
> I need to open the window- there's a lot of hot air.

Obviously you are among the "very young" to whom I refer!
>