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Crazy Horse Paris to change name ?

Crazy Horse Paris to change name ?

Old Oct 22nd 2004, 2:22 am
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Frank F. Matthews
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Miss L. Toe wrote:

    > "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>Frank F. Matthews writes:

    >>>A decendent of an early immigrant.

    > I would say a decendent of the first settlers.

    >>Like members of the DAR and almost all American blacks?

    >>If descendants of later immigrants are not really Americans, what are
    >>they?

    > Second or third generation immigrants (or maybe fourth or fifth etc).

Long generations if 200 years gets you only five.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:08 am
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:22:10 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Miss L. Toe wrote:
    >> "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>>Frank F. Matthews writes:
    >>>>A decendent of an early immigrant.
    >> I would say a decendent of the first settlers.
    >>>Like members of the DAR and almost all American blacks?
    >>>If descendants of later immigrants are not really Americans, what are
    >>>they?
    >> Second or third generation immigrants (or maybe fourth or fifth etc).
    >Long generations if 200 years gets you only five.

I can manage 140 years going back two generations, excluding myself.
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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:46 am
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Miss L. Toe writes:

    > I would say a decendent of the first settlers.

Who were the _first_ settlers?

    > Second or third generation immigrants (or maybe fourth or fifth etc).

How can they be immigrants if they were born in the United States?

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:46 am
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[email protected] writes:

    > I can manage 140 years going back two generations, excluding myself.

Few people reproduce at age 70.

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:47 am
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Miss L. Toe writes:

    > Why do you think it can't be done ?

There's no legal basis for it.

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:53 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Miss L. Toe writes:
    > > I would say a decendent of the first settlers.
    > Who were the _first_ settlers?

I'm not a historian, but from the little I know possibly the people we know
call Red Indians.

    > > Second or third generation immigrants (or maybe fourth or fifth etc).
    > How can they be immigrants if they were born in the United States?

Hence the word 'generation'. "second generation immigrant' is a common
expression in the UK used to refer to the children (born in the UK) of
immigrants who have become more integrated into British society.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 4:55 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Miss L. Toe writes:
    > > Why do you think it can't be done ?
    > There's no legal basis for it.
They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact they
said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot more
than asking nicely.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:05 am
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Miss L. Toe writes:

    > I'm not a historian, but from the little I know possibly the people we know
    > call Red Indians.

What about the archeological evidence for earlier settlers?

    > Hence the word 'generation'. "second generation immigrant' is a common
    > expression in the UK used to refer to the children (born in the UK) of
    > immigrants who have become more integrated into British society.

It's an inaccurate term. Immigration is not inherited.

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:05 am
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Miss L. Toe writes:

    > They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact they
    > said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot more
    > than asking nicely.

Terrorism? Why haven't they been arrested?

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:08 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Miss L. Toe writes:
    >> They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact they
    >> said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot more
    >> than asking nicely.
    > Terrorism? Why haven't they been arrested?

Buying the place up, starting a public relations offensive or a botcott,
etc.

The latter two are pretty close to terrorist acts under emerging
interpretation of the Patriot Act, but not yet in France.

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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:33 am
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:08:24 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Miss L. Toe writes:
    >>> They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact they
    >>> said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot more
    >>> than asking nicely.
    >> Terrorism? Why haven't they been arrested?
    >Buying the place up, starting a public relations offensive or a botcott,

Ah, so that's where a robot sleeps.
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Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:50 am
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Frank F. Matthews
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Miss L. Toe wrote:

    > "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Miss L. Toe writes:

    >>>I would say a decendent of the first settlers.

    >>Who were the _first_ settlers?

    > I'm not a historian, but from the little I know possibly the people we know
    > call Red Indians.

Somewhat questionable. There is some evidence that they were in a
second or third wave of immigration and the original immigrants moved on
south.

    >>>Second or third generation immigrants (or maybe fourth or fifth etc).
    >>How can they be immigrants if they were born in the United States?
    >
    >
    > Hence the word 'generation'. "second generation immigrant' is a common
    > expression in the UK used to refer to the children (born in the UK) of
    > immigrants who have become more integrated into British society.
    >
    >
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 6:51 am
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Miss L. Toe wrote:

    > "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Miss L. Toe writes:
    >>>Why do you think it can't be done ?
    >>There's no legal basis for it.
    >
    > They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact they
    > said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot more
    > than asking nicely.

The French police can cope.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 8:08 am
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Miss L. Toe
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Miss L. Toe writes:
    > > I'm not a historian, but from the little I know possibly the people we
know
    > > call Red Indians.
    > What about the archeological evidence for earlier settlers?

Tell me about it.

    > > Hence the word 'generation'. "second generation immigrant' is a common
    > > expression in the UK used to refer to the children (born in the UK) of
    > > immigrants who have become more integrated into British society.
    > It's an inaccurate term. Immigration is not inherited.

Life is an inaccurate term.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2004, 8:09 am
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Miss L. Toe
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Miss L. Toe writes:
    > > They didnt say that their tactics were limited to legal means, in fact
they
    > > said "whatever it takes" which to many people might mean doing a lot
more
    > > than asking nicely.
    > Terrorism? Why haven't they been arrested?

Because they vote republican ??
 

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