AvieNL wrote in message
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    > "Alejandro" schreef in bericht
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Even if that's the case, don't worry... There's nothing wrong with
    > > climate (even political) in Spain. You are welcome here. You can also
    > > go to the Netherlands, as Avie said in other post, but I would wait
    > > until summer to go there... too cold and rainy now :-P
    > >
    > > Alejandro
    > Hahahaha okay you're right Alejandro, cold okay.. but it didn't had rain
in
    > 10 days! :-)
    > But realy USA citizens... Europe is save, and as big as the USA... and
when
    > there was a tornado in Florida... were the people in Texas sitting in
there
    > bunkers because of that tornado?
    > And when you are afraid to come close to a conflict or war stay away from
    > Serbia, Macedonia, Kosovo, Irland(only the border at UK), Ukrain and
    > Moldavia, and maybe France, but just because a lot of (stupid) Franceman
    > only listen to what they want to hear from there government. But still...
    > Paris can not life without tourists.
    > But in Spain, Italy, Germany, Belgium, United Kingdom, Irland, all of the
    > Scandinavian countries, Poland, Czech Republik, Hongaria, Romania, Greece
    > etc etc.. and of course the Netherlands are realy save. I think even saver
    > when the war starts and US of A is realy becoming a target for the
missiles
    > from Saddam.
    > And even the Turkeys westcoast is save (and nice).

Ummm... I think you mean 'safe', not 'save'. And don't knock Macedonia, it's
got beautiful Lake Ohrid. Makes a lovely stopover on your way to Albania.
---
DFM

AvieNL wrote in message
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    > "Deep Floyd Mars" schreef in
bericht
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Ummm... I think you mean 'safe', not 'save'. And don't knock Macedonia,
    > it's
    > > got beautiful Lake Ohrid. Makes a lovely stopover on your way to
Albania.
    > > ---
    > > DFM
    > Yeah I ment safe.
    > Lake Ohrid is wonderfull!!! I lived in Skopje for 6 month and Ohrid was a
    > perfect weekendbreak!!! But I was talking about places where American
could
    > have a saFe holiday... and at the moment I would not feel safe in
    > Macedonia.. but okay... it's a personal opinion. But again: Ohrid is a
sort
    > of paradise in Europe... Loved it there!

Admittedly, there was a heavy military presence when I was there 6 months
back. Felt quite safe. And it was stunning - cheap and friendly too! I would
not hesitate in going back there unless there was another big flareup of
trouble.

Actually that's quite possible, isn't it? Watch this space...
---
DFM

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:07:15 -0800, "hotmail"
wrote:

    >I bet it is safer to be an American in Europe than it is to be Arab in
    >America.
    >J

Considering that the Arabs have been responsible for 99% of terrorist
acts in the world, it's surprising that the number of incidents
relating to Arabs/Moslems in the US have been relatively few and
isolated. In fact, fewer than Arab/Moslem or skinhead attacks on
Jews or Jewish institutions in Europe.

Overall, however, it's far safer to be an American walking the
streets of most European cities at night than to be an American
walking the streets of American cities at night.

Completely safe, rest assured. The world basically does not consist of a
bunch of wild-eyed fanatics: the ones you see on TV. Indeed, travelling to
Iraq at this point could be risky, as you might be killed by American
firepower. Other than that, I would doubt you would have any problems -
providing you use Commen Sense. And that is what you use whether you are in
Detroit or Iraq, or Dullville or Europe.

Check out my Tel Aviv pix here:
http://herrhagen.net/israel.html

Have fun,
Jon

"Shorty Blackwell" skrev i meddelandet
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    > Really: should North Americans be travelling throughout Europe right
    > now or not? Is it safe for us, given the current political & global
    > climate?
    > Thanks.

Thanks, everybody, I will proceed w/ my plans to visit.

(And Netherlands will be my first stop!!)

xoxo

Shorty! Don't forget to Jenevere! The "half & half" is just the best thing
in this world!

Judy




"Shorty Blackwell" wrote in message
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    > Thanks, everybody, I will proceed w/ my plans to visit.
    > (And Netherlands will be my first stop!!)
    > xoxo

In article ,
[email protected] (Shorty Blackwell) wrote:

    > Really: should North Americans be travelling throughout Europe right
    > now or not? Is it safe for us, given the current political & global
    > climate?
    >
    > Thanks.

Frankly, it would be safer to be out of the US given the likes of Bush,
Asscroft and his jack booted thugs..........

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
    >
    > The question should be-should Europeans even consider travelling to the US,
    > given the fact that the country is such an obvious terrorist target?

Good point!

    >
    > "Shorty Blackwell" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Really: should North Americans be travelling throughout Europe right
    > > now or not? Is it safe for us, given the current political & global
    > > climate?
    > >
    > > Thanks.

In article , Cesare Borgia
writes
    >Considering that the Arabs have been responsible for 99% of terrorist
    >acts in the world,
Ever hear of the IRA and its offshoots?
--
Marie Lewis

In article , Cesare Borgia
writes
    > Let's face
    >it, although not unheard of, it's rare for a terrorist incident to
    >be perpetrated by Asians, Hispanics, Europeans, Africans, etc


Ask those in Northern Ireland and the British mainland about that.

It wasn't Arabs who blew up Canary Wharf, the whole city centre of
Manchester, etc. etc., etc.
--
Marie Lewis

"Marie Lewis" wrote
    | Cesare Borgia writes
    | > Let's face it, although not unheard of, it's rare for a
    | > terrorist incident to be perpetrated by Asians, Hispanics,
    | > Europeans, Africans, etc
    | Ask those in Northern Ireland and the British mainland about that.
    | It wasn't Arabs who blew up Canary Wharf, the whole city centre of
    | Manchester, etc. etc., etc.

Not forgetting all the fundraising for the terrorists that took place in,
er, USA.

Owain

Ryan wrote:

    >my goal is to be the only American S.O.B. in
    > Europe this year and have it all to myself)

    >Ryan

Don't count on it, we are going ,too

Sandor

"SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron" wrote in message
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    > Ryan wrote:
    > >my goal is to be the only American S.O.B. in
    > > Europe this year and have it all to myself)
    > >Ryan
    > Don't count on it, we are going ,too
    > Sandor

Don't. It's not safe.

Ryan

On 21 Feb 2003 19:35:26 -0600, Someone wrote:


    >In article ,
    > [email protected] (Shorty Blackwell) wrote:
    >> Really: should North Americans be travelling throughout Europe right
    >> now or not? Is it safe for us, given the current political & global
    >> climate?

    >Frankly, it would be safer to be out of the US given the likes of Bush,
    >Asscroft and his jack booted thugs..........

I'm from Tampa, Lightning Capital of the World. ('Tampa' is an Indian
word meaning 'sticks of fire'.) The instant I step off the plane in a
distant place my life expectancy goes up.