American Restaurant in Paris
Dec 12th 2003, 5:52 am
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Re: Mexican food -- American Restaurant in Paris
"Terryo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Interestingly, although I used to live in Germany, one of the best
> German meals I've ever eaten was at a German restaurant in Tijuana.
A few years ago, I ate in two "Mexican" restaurants in Frankfurt. I recall
them as being reasonably pleasant but they would only be called good by
nostalgic Americans (g)
Jim.
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> Interestingly, although I used to live in Germany, one of the best
> German meals I've ever eaten was at a German restaurant in Tijuana.
A few years ago, I ate in two "Mexican" restaurants in Frankfurt. I recall
them as being reasonably pleasant but they would only be called good by
nostalgic Americans (g)
Jim.
Dec 12th 2003, 7:22 am
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"Reid" wrote:
> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not extensive,
>>> then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so have to be taken
>>> your opinions on that matter.
>> Many gourmets consider that there are only a handful of full-fledged
>> cuisines in the world, and Spain's is not among them. French, Italian,
>> and Chinese are always mentioned. I've heard Mexican and Indian
>> mentioned, too.
> Interesting that Alexandre Dumas's "Grand Dictionaire de Cuisine"
> gives more space to Spain than any other country except France.
> The Basques alone justify a place in the pantheon of world
> cooking, then there is the mozarabic cooking of the south, the
> tapas tradition.............
Many gourmets these days are talking about Barcelona as having Europe's most
exciting wine and food. And of course there's Ferran Adria.
m
> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not extensive,
>>> then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so have to be taken
>>> your opinions on that matter.
>> Many gourmets consider that there are only a handful of full-fledged
>> cuisines in the world, and Spain's is not among them. French, Italian,
>> and Chinese are always mentioned. I've heard Mexican and Indian
>> mentioned, too.
> Interesting that Alexandre Dumas's "Grand Dictionaire de Cuisine"
> gives more space to Spain than any other country except France.
> The Basques alone justify a place in the pantheon of world
> cooking, then there is the mozarabic cooking of the south, the
> tapas tradition.............
Many gourmets these days are talking about Barcelona as having Europe's most
exciting wine and food. And of course there's Ferran Adria.
m
Dec 12th 2003, 7:34 am
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Reid writes:
> so that proves it doesn't look like a woman.
How so? (Although I agree that it does not look like a woman.)
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> so that proves it doesn't look like a woman.
How so? (Although I agree that it does not look like a woman.)
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Dec 12th 2003, 7:40 am
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Olivers writes:
> As I recall, one of the more common obscenities in Mexican Spanish, words
> related to the verb "chingar" which means "to ****", is the name given to
> sweet potatoes in parts of Paraguay and Argentina. I'd already mentioned
> the vernacular "panoche" (night bread? but not penuche, a sugar candy), not
> quite as strong as "****", but comparable to pussy or minou. Then there's
> "cabron", no more than a big goat, but certainly equivalent to son of a
> bitch (Hispanophones seem especially sensitive to any obscenity insulting
> motherhood especially their own mothers, and folks are advised not to call
> individuals "MF" or its equivalents in Mexico at risk of serious
> bloodshed).
Then again, border-style Mexican Spanish is known throughout the
Hispanophone world for its incredibly intensive use of obscenity and
profanity. Some films have even made fun of this, in a way--see _El
Norte_. Border Mexicans can often be recognized by their potty mouths.
My aforementioned friend from central Mexico often nearly fainted in
ordinary conversations with Hispanophones in the U.S., since she was
talking to seemingly ordinary women who swore worse than the worst
battle-scarred sailors. Eventually she got used to it; I hope she never
adopted it herself.
I've seen the same things happen when Hispanophones visit with
Mexican-American families for the first time: there's a lot of blushing
and bulging eyes and slack jaws. It's especially shocking since
Hispanophone societies are often very macho, and hearing petite and
proper women swearing a blue streak is very shocking.
Imagine the dialog of a Scorsese gangster film in a film like Mary
Poppins, and you get an idea of the effect.
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> As I recall, one of the more common obscenities in Mexican Spanish, words
> related to the verb "chingar" which means "to ****", is the name given to
> sweet potatoes in parts of Paraguay and Argentina. I'd already mentioned
> the vernacular "panoche" (night bread? but not penuche, a sugar candy), not
> quite as strong as "****", but comparable to pussy or minou. Then there's
> "cabron", no more than a big goat, but certainly equivalent to son of a
> bitch (Hispanophones seem especially sensitive to any obscenity insulting
> motherhood especially their own mothers, and folks are advised not to call
> individuals "MF" or its equivalents in Mexico at risk of serious
> bloodshed).
Then again, border-style Mexican Spanish is known throughout the
Hispanophone world for its incredibly intensive use of obscenity and
profanity. Some films have even made fun of this, in a way--see _El
Norte_. Border Mexicans can often be recognized by their potty mouths.
My aforementioned friend from central Mexico often nearly fainted in
ordinary conversations with Hispanophones in the U.S., since she was
talking to seemingly ordinary women who swore worse than the worst
battle-scarred sailors. Eventually she got used to it; I hope she never
adopted it herself.
I've seen the same things happen when Hispanophones visit with
Mexican-American families for the first time: there's a lot of blushing
and bulging eyes and slack jaws. It's especially shocking since
Hispanophone societies are often very macho, and hearing petite and
proper women swearing a blue streak is very shocking.
Imagine the dialog of a Scorsese gangster film in a film like Mary
Poppins, and you get an idea of the effect.
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Dec 12th 2003, 8:02 am
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José M. Malo <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje
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>> Not after you've tasted Spanish food. Mexican sounds good after
>> that.
>
> Have you ever been in Spain? If it's so, it seems an unlucky choice of
> restaurants. Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not
> extensive, then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so
> have to be taken your opinions on that matter.
Jose' you are speaking to mxsmanic who only eats at McDonalds. He know
nothing about food... (I think that was evident by his post).
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> "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje
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>> Not after you've tasted Spanish food. Mexican sounds good after
>> that.
>
> Have you ever been in Spain? If it's so, it seems an unlucky choice of
> restaurants. Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not
> extensive, then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so
> have to be taken your opinions on that matter.
Jose' you are speaking to mxsmanic who only eats at McDonalds. He know
nothing about food... (I think that was evident by his post).
Dec 12th 2003, 8:03 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
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> José M. Malo writes:
>
>> Have you ever been in Spain? If it's so, it seems an unlucky choice
>> of restaurants. Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not
>> extensive, then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so
>> have to be taken your opinions on that matter.
>
> Many gourmets consider that there are only a handful of full-fledged
> cuisines in the world, and Spain's is not among them. French,
> Italian, and Chinese are always mentioned. I've heard Mexican and
> Indian mentioned, too. But most countries don't have much of a
> cuisine; they just have regional dishes.
You are not well informed (as usual).
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> José M. Malo writes:
>
>> Have you ever been in Spain? If it's so, it seems an unlucky choice
>> of restaurants. Anyway, if you think that Spanish cuisine is not
>> extensive, then it's clear that you are quite uninformed on it and so
>> have to be taken your opinions on that matter.
>
> Many gourmets consider that there are only a handful of full-fledged
> cuisines in the world, and Spain's is not among them. French,
> Italian, and Chinese are always mentioned. I've heard Mexican and
> Indian mentioned, too. But most countries don't have much of a
> cuisine; they just have regional dishes.
You are not well informed (as usual).
Dec 12th 2003, 8:21 am
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> As Frank said, César salad was created in 1942 in Mexico by an Italian
> named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to Tijuana's race
> track.
That Italian make all the best food!
Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with it??
> named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to Tijuana's race
> track.
That Italian make all the best food!
Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with it??
Dec 12th 2003, 9:23 am
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Emilia muttered....
>
>> As Frank said, César salad was created in 1942 in Mexico by an Italian
>> named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to Tijuana's race
>> track.
>
> That Italian make all the best food!
> Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
> What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with it??
>
>
>
>
Wienerschnitzel is not Italian....
Ceasar salad is certainly not Italian....
I will vote for risotto, but even that is a regional favorite rarely found
south of Rome.
>
>> As Frank said, César salad was created in 1942 in Mexico by an Italian
>> named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to Tijuana's race
>> track.
>
> That Italian make all the best food!
> Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
> What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with it??
>
>
>
>
Wienerschnitzel is not Italian....
Ceasar salad is certainly not Italian....
I will vote for risotto, but even that is a regional favorite rarely found
south of Rome.
Dec 12th 2003, 9:32 am
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Olivers <[email protected]> wrote in
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(someone said
>>> As Frank said, César salad was created in 1942 in Mexico by an
>>> Italian named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to
>>> Tijuana's race track.
> then Emilia stated clearly....
>>
>> That Italians make all the best food!
>> Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
>> What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with
>> it??
>
> Wienerschnitzel is not Italian....
Actually, it is...
> Ceasar salad is certainly not Italian....
According to the post before mine it was invented by and Italian (see
above)...
> I will vote for risotto, but even that is a regional favorite rarely
> found south of Rome.
Either way, the best ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini are made by
me so they can be had wherever I happen to be and I have been known to
show my face in Rome every now & again. :O)
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(someone said
>>> As Frank said, César salad was created in 1942 in Mexico by an
>>> Italian named César who had a well-regarded restaurant next to
>>> Tijuana's race track.
> then Emilia stated clearly....
>>
>> That Italians make all the best food!
>> Wienerschnitzel & Ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini!!
>> What more could one want?? Oh, I suppose a nice Brunello to go with
>> it??
>
> Wienerschnitzel is not Italian....
Actually, it is...
> Ceasar salad is certainly not Italian....
According to the post before mine it was invented by and Italian (see
above)...
> I will vote for risotto, but even that is a regional favorite rarely
> found south of Rome.
Either way, the best ceasar salad & risotto ai fungi porcini are made by
me so they can be had wherever I happen to be and I have been known to
show my face in Rome every now & again. :O)
Dec 12th 2003, 10:25 am
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In French, gender usually follows Latin roots. As for gender in Latin,
> > I don't know.
> It was based on the Romans' anticipation of how the French would do it.
> miguel
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possibility that he may disagree with it.
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> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In French, gender usually follows Latin roots. As for gender in Latin,
> > I don't know.
> It was based on the Romans' anticipation of how the French would do it.
> miguel
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You do, of course, realise (yes, of course you do, it is a rhetorical question)
that Mixi will consider your response and that it is not beyond the bounds of
possibility that he may disagree with it.
JohnT
Dec 12th 2003, 10:55 am
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:19:36 +0000, "Donna Evleth"
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>German, with three genders, is even worse. And gender assignment is equally
>illogical. I refer you to Mark Twain and his piece in "A Tramp Abroad" on
>the "The Awful German Language" which includes "The Tale of the Fishwife and
>Its Sad Fate."
Finn, on the other hand, has no gender at all, not even in
pronouns.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>German, with three genders, is even worse. And gender assignment is equally
>illogical. I refer you to Mark Twain and his piece in "A Tramp Abroad" on
>the "The Awful German Language" which includes "The Tale of the Fishwife and
>Its Sad Fate."
Finn, on the other hand, has no gender at all, not even in
pronouns.
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Dec 12th 2003, 10:57 am
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:13:29 -0700, randee <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Ah well, my sons who grew up here and moved to Colorado tell me that
>there are no decent chilis grown in Colorado, they come here in the fall
>to get their supply.
You may have tom from time to time, remind us where "here" is.
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>Ah well, my sons who grew up here and moved to Colorado tell me that
>there are no decent chilis grown in Colorado, they come here in the fall
>to get their supply.
You may have tom from time to time, remind us where "here" is.
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Dec 12th 2003, 10:58 am
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:12:18 -0700, randee <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Head for Amarillo, there is a place there where the steak is free if you
>can eat it all in one sitting. I think it is a 40+ ounce portion. Call
>it a 4 lb. Porterhouse steak.
>Oh, there may be a time limit, like one hour or so.
>If you are really curious and can see if I still have the name and
>address of the restaurant.
Such places are not uncommon in many parts of the USA, so there
is scacely any reason to have to travel to Amarillo.
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wrote:
>Head for Amarillo, there is a place there where the steak is free if you
>can eat it all in one sitting. I think it is a 40+ ounce portion. Call
>it a 4 lb. Porterhouse steak.
>Oh, there may be a time limit, like one hour or so.
>If you are really curious and can see if I still have the name and
>address of the restaurant.
Such places are not uncommon in many parts of the USA, so there
is scacely any reason to have to travel to Amarillo.
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Dec 12th 2003, 11:42 am
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:49:57 +0100, José M. Malo
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So you haven't ever been in Spain but have a firm opinion on its food...
>Great.
I don't think he said he has never been to Spain.
Mixi may be opinionated, but he is not passionate, especially in
regards to food.
Would you take a celibate religious man's advice on sexual
relationships?
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DFM
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So you haven't ever been in Spain but have a firm opinion on its food...
>Great.
I don't think he said he has never been to Spain.
Mixi may be opinionated, but he is not passionate, especially in
regards to food.
Would you take a celibate religious man's advice on sexual
relationships?
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DFM
Dec 12th 2003, 11:55 am
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Hatunen writes:
> Finn, on the other hand, has no gender at all, not even in
> pronouns.
But it does have 15 cases, as I recall, and possibly a few words
containing letter combinations like åååå.
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> Finn, on the other hand, has no gender at all, not even in
> pronouns.
But it does have 15 cases, as I recall, and possibly a few words
containing letter combinations like åååå.
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