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Aug 14th 2007, 10:29 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:27:59 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>> > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>some
>> > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>Why
>> > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> > >
>> > > To make money?
>> >
>> > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>want
>> > to search the baggage afterwards.
>>
>> If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>wrapping.
>
>No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>effectively does that!
Not if there is money to be made. Incidentally which airport offers a bubble
wrapping service?
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>> > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>some
>> > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>Why
>> > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> > >
>> > > To make money?
>> >
>> > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>want
>> > to search the baggage afterwards.
>>
>> If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>wrapping.
>
>No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>effectively does that!
Not if there is money to be made. Incidentally which airport offers a bubble
wrapping service?
--
Martin
Aug 14th 2007, 10:29 am
#92
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
> > > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
> some
> > > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
> Why
> > > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> > > >
> > > > To make money?
> > >
> > > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
> want
> > > to search the baggage afterwards.
> >
> > If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
> wrapping.
>
> No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
> as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> effectively does that!
Most hold luggage isn't manually opened, so people just take a chance.
Last place I saw the wrapping service was in Barcelona, and people were
having bags wrapped. I've also seen wrapped bags on the carousel which
have been cut open and resealed.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
> > > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
> some
> > > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
> Why
> > > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> > > >
> > > > To make money?
> > >
> > > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
> want
> > > to search the baggage afterwards.
> >
> > If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
> wrapping.
>
> No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
> as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> effectively does that!
Most hold luggage isn't manually opened, so people just take a chance.
Last place I saw the wrapping service was in Barcelona, and people were
having bags wrapped. I've also seen wrapped bags on the carousel which
have been cut open and resealed.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 14th 2007, 10:31 am
#93
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
some
> >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
Why
> >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> >>
> >> To make money?
> >
> >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
want
> >to search the baggage afterwards.
>
> as at least two of us have told you they do.
>
> Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
--
Andy
news:[email protected]...
> >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
some
> >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
Why
> >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> >>
> >> To make money?
> >
> >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
want
> >to search the baggage afterwards.
>
> as at least two of us have told you they do.
>
> Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
--
Andy
Aug 14th 2007, 10:33 am
#94
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
> some
> > >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
> Why
> > >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> > >>
> > >> To make money?
> > >
> > >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
> want
> > >to search the baggage afterwards.
> >
> > as at least two of us have told you they do.
> >
> > Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
>
> Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
> it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
> searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
I never lock my hold luggage, and the last time I flew from the US to
the UK, when I opened my bad on arrival, it had an official note inside
from the US authorities saying it had been manually searched. Don't know
what the policy is, but that's the only time I'm aware of my luggage
being searched.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
> some
> > >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
> Why
> > >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> > >>
> > >> To make money?
> > >
> > >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
> want
> > >to search the baggage afterwards.
> >
> > as at least two of us have told you they do.
> >
> > Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
>
> Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
> it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
> searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
I never lock my hold luggage, and the last time I flew from the US to
the UK, when I opened my bad on arrival, it had an official note inside
from the US authorities saying it had been manually searched. Don't know
what the policy is, but that's the only time I'm aware of my luggage
being searched.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 14th 2007, 10:36 am
#95
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:29:40 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>> > > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>> some
>> > > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>> Why
>> > > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> > > >
>> > > > To make money?
>> > >
>> > > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>> want
>> > > to search the baggage afterwards.
>> >
>> > If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>> wrapping.
>>
>> No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>> as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>> effectively does that!
>
>Most hold luggage isn't manually opened, so people just take a chance.
>Last place I saw the wrapping service was in Barcelona, and people were
>having bags wrapped. I've also seen wrapped bags on the carousel which
>have been cut open and resealed.
and I know somebody who had an axe inserted in his luggage without his knowledge
by a security team as part of a check of the controls made on checked in
luggage at Schiphol. He was more than surprised when it was discovered by an
official with a large gun in a small country in S America.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>> > > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>> some
>> > > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>> Why
>> > > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> > > >
>> > > > To make money?
>> > >
>> > > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>> want
>> > > to search the baggage afterwards.
>> >
>> > If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>> wrapping.
>>
>> No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>> as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>> effectively does that!
>
>Most hold luggage isn't manually opened, so people just take a chance.
>Last place I saw the wrapping service was in Barcelona, and people were
>having bags wrapped. I've also seen wrapped bags on the carousel which
>have been cut open and resealed.
and I know somebody who had an axe inserted in his luggage without his knowledge
by a security team as part of a check of the controls made on checked in
luggage at Schiphol. He was more than surprised when it was discovered by an
official with a large gun in a small country in S America.
--
Martin
Aug 14th 2007, 10:37 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:31:41 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>some
>> >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>Why
>> >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> >>
>> >> To make money?
>> >
>> >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>want
>> >to search the baggage afterwards.
>>
>> as at least two of us have told you they do.
>>
>> Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
>
>Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
>it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
>searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
The scanner is part of the searching process.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> >> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>some
>> >> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>Why
>> >> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> >>
>> >> To make money?
>> >
>> >Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>want
>> >to search the baggage afterwards.
>>
>> as at least two of us have told you they do.
>>
>> Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
>
>Well they make a very neat job of picking my suitcase lock, relocking
>it afterwards, and redoing the straps then. I suspect it's only
>searched if the scanner picks up something which looks suspicious.
The scanner is part of the searching process.
--
Martin
Aug 14th 2007, 10:51 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your
luggage
> >as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> >effectively does that!
>
> Not if there is money to be made.
So they'd offer a service to do something which they forbid.
> Incidentally which airport offers a bubble
> wrapping service?
Can't remember, seen it in a few places.
--
Andy
news:[email protected]...
> >No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your
luggage
> >as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> >effectively does that!
>
> Not if there is money to be made.
So they'd offer a service to do something which they forbid.
> Incidentally which airport offers a bubble
> wrapping service?
Can't remember, seen it in a few places.
--
Andy
Aug 14th 2007, 10:57 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your
> luggage
> > >as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> > >effectively does that!
> >
> > Not if there is money to be made.
>
> So they'd offer a service to do something which they forbid.
Is it forbidden, or advised against?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your
> luggage
> > >as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
> > >effectively does that!
> >
> > Not if there is money to be made.
>
> So they'd offer a service to do something which they forbid.
Is it forbidden, or advised against?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 14th 2007, 10:58 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news
[email protected]...
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
>>> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>>> > >
>>> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
>>> or
>>> > every day, surely?
Even private health insurance in the UK won't
>>> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
>>> plan
>>> > or pay extra for it.
>>>
>>> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
>>> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
>>> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
>>> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
>>> 'under the influence of alcohol').
>>
>>My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
>>normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
>>the US.
>
> It's normal for staff and retired staff of International Organisations
perhaps it is.
But I think that in having this insurance you are disqualified
from giving advice such as "I've never bought TI in my life"
(which is what you did). Most people don't have such
cover unless they buy it separately.
tim
> --
>
> Martin
>
news
[email protected]...> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
>>> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>>> > >
>>> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
>>> or
>>> > every day, surely?
Even private health insurance in the UK won't>>> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
>>> plan
>>> > or pay extra for it.
>>>
>>> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
>>> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
>>> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
>>> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
>>> 'under the influence of alcohol').
>>
>>My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
>>normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
>>the US.
>
> It's normal for staff and retired staff of International Organisations
perhaps it is.
But I think that in having this insurance you are disqualified
from giving advice such as "I've never bought TI in my life"
(which is what you did). Most people don't have such
cover unless they buy it separately.
tim
> --
>
> Martin
>
Aug 14th 2007, 11:00 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Aug 14, 11:30 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>
> Except that you can choose to buy an insurance only that one time you
> actually have diamond jewelry or the like on your checked-in laggage
> and don't buy one in all the other instances...
I don't believe that one time Insurance would pay out on diamond
jewellery placed in checked luggage.
tim
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> On Aug 14, 11:30 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>
> Except that you can choose to buy an insurance only that one time you
> actually have diamond jewelry or the like on your checked-in laggage
> and don't buy one in all the other instances...
I don't believe that one time Insurance would pay out on diamond
jewellery placed in checked luggage.
tim
Aug 14th 2007, 11:05 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Markku Grönroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> viestissÀ:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>>
> Travel insurances for one year cost a few dozen euros. Naturally it is
> veli, veli stupid to buy one.
Of course it is stupid to buy it, if you can't conceive
a situation where you might benefit from it.
The OP was taking about a short trip within his own country.
Is insurance really needed for this just because the transport
is a plane?
> It is the same with automobiles: you pay hundreds if not thousands of
> euros every year for nothing.
I buy it for peace (piece?) of mind, in case I have an accident.
There is a conceivable scenario where I might benefit. The
comparison is not the same.
tim
news:HNewi.206899$L%[email protected] i.fi...
>
> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> viestissÀ:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>>
> Travel insurances for one year cost a few dozen euros. Naturally it is
> veli, veli stupid to buy one.
Of course it is stupid to buy it, if you can't conceive
a situation where you might benefit from it.
The OP was taking about a short trip within his own country.
Is insurance really needed for this just because the transport
is a plane?
> It is the same with automobiles: you pay hundreds if not thousands of
> euros every year for nothing.
I buy it for peace (piece?) of mind, in case I have an accident.
There is a conceivable scenario where I might benefit. The
comparison is not the same.
tim
Aug 14th 2007, 11:06 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
On Aug 14, 1:00 pm, "tim....." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> > On Aug 14, 11:30 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
> >> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
> >> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
> >> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
> >> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
> >> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>
> > Except that you can choose to buy an insurance only that one time you
> > actually have diamond jewelry or the like on your checked-in laggage
> > and don't buy one in all the other instances...
>
> I don't believe that one time Insurance would pay out on diamond
> jewellery placed in checked luggage.
It covers a sum, as long as the sum covered is enough to replace the
diamond jewelry, you should present any hard-facts stating that there
is an exception for diamond jewelry, not only blury beliefs...
Jan
> "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> > On Aug 14, 11:30 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
> >> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
> >> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
> >> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
> >> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
> >> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>
> > Except that you can choose to buy an insurance only that one time you
> > actually have diamond jewelry or the like on your checked-in laggage
> > and don't buy one in all the other instances...
>
> I don't believe that one time Insurance would pay out on diamond
> jewellery placed in checked luggage.
It covers a sum, as long as the sum covered is enough to replace the
diamond jewelry, you should present any hard-facts stating that there
is an exception for diamond jewelry, not only blury beliefs...
Jan
Aug 14th 2007, 11:07 am
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Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:58:38 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected].. .
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
>>>> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
>>>> or
>>>> > every day, surely? Even private health insurance in the UK won't
>>>> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
>>>> plan
>>>> > or pay extra for it.
>>>>
>>>> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
>>>> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
>>>> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
>>>> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
>>>> 'under the influence of alcohol').
>>>
>>>My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
>>>normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
>>>the US.
>>
>> It's normal for staff and retired staff of International Organisations
>
>perhaps it is.
Perhaps? You know something I don't?
>
>But I think that in having this insurance you are disqualified
>from giving advice such as "I've never bought TI in my life"
>(which is what you did). Most people don't have such
>cover unless they buy it separately.
I still see no reason to buy it. I have never had a situation where I would have
needed to claim.
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news
[email protected].. .>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
>>>> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
>>>> or
>>>> > every day, surely?
Even private health insurance in the UK won't>>>> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
>>>> plan
>>>> > or pay extra for it.
>>>>
>>>> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
>>>> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
>>>> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
>>>> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
>>>> 'under the influence of alcohol').
>>>
>>>My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
>>>normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
>>>the US.
>>
>> It's normal for staff and retired staff of International Organisations
>
>perhaps it is.
Perhaps? You know something I don't?
>
>But I think that in having this insurance you are disqualified
>from giving advice such as "I've never bought TI in my life"
>(which is what you did). Most people don't have such
>cover unless they buy it separately.
I still see no reason to buy it. I have never had a situation where I would have
needed to claim.
--
Martin
Aug 14th 2007, 11:08 am
#104
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:27:59 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>>> > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>>some
>>> > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>>Why
>>> > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>>> > >
>>> > > To make money?
>>> >
>>> > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>>want
>>> > to search the baggage afterwards.
>>>
>>> If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>>wrapping.
>>
>>No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>>as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>>effectively does that!
>
> Not if there is money to be made. Incidentally which airport offers a
> bubble
> wrapping service?
I first saw this at MAD a few years ago and all the locals
were queuing up to use if for their flights to South America.
I assumed that this, lack of trusting the airline, was a
Spanish thing.
But I've since seen it elsewhere in English speaking locations
(US/Canada perhaps)
tim
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:27:59 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
>>> > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
>>some
>>> > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
>>Why
>>> > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>>> > >
>>> > > To make money?
>>> >
>>> > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
>>want
>>> > to search the baggage afterwards.
>>>
>>> If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
>>wrapping.
>>
>>No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
>>as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
>>effectively does that!
>
> Not if there is money to be made. Incidentally which airport offers a
> bubble
> wrapping service?
I first saw this at MAD a few years ago and all the locals
were queuing up to use if for their flights to South America.
I assumed that this, lack of trusting the airline, was a
Spanish thing.
But I've since seen it elsewhere in English speaking locations
(US/Canada perhaps)
tim
Aug 14th 2007, 11:12 am
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Travel Insurance enquiry
"tim....." <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected]...
>
> "Markku Gr�nroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:HNewi.206899$L%[email protected] i.fi...
>>
>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
>> viestiss�:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>>>
>> Travel insurances for one year cost a few dozen euros. Naturally it is
>> veli, veli stupid to buy one.
>
> Of course it is stupid to buy it, if you can't conceive
> a situation where you might benefit from it.
>
> The OP was taking about a short trip within his own country.
> Is insurance really needed for this just because the transport
> is a plane?
>
Most travel insurances are good for domestic trips as well. I didn't refer
to anyone "OP".
>> It is the same with automobiles: you pay hundreds if not thousands of
>> euros every year for nothing.
>
> I buy it for peace (piece?) of mind, in case I have an accident.
> There is a conceivable scenario where I might benefit. The
> comparison is not the same.
>
Perhaps you don't fully understand what you are writing about.
viestiss�:[email protected]...
>
> "Markku Gr�nroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:HNewi.206899$L%[email protected] i.fi...
>>
>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
>> viestiss�:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
>>> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
>>> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
>>> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
>>> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
>>> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.
>>>
>> Travel insurances for one year cost a few dozen euros. Naturally it is
>> veli, veli stupid to buy one.
>
> Of course it is stupid to buy it, if you can't conceive
> a situation where you might benefit from it.
>
> The OP was taking about a short trip within his own country.
> Is insurance really needed for this just because the transport
> is a plane?
>
Most travel insurances are good for domestic trips as well. I didn't refer
to anyone "OP".
>> It is the same with automobiles: you pay hundreds if not thousands of
>> euros every year for nothing.
>
> I buy it for peace (piece?) of mind, in case I have an accident.
> There is a conceivable scenario where I might benefit. The
> comparison is not the same.
>
Perhaps you don't fully understand what you are writing about.
