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Old Aug 14th 2007, 9:54 am
  #76  
-Jan
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On Aug 14, 11:30 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Indeed - there are lots of cases where insurance would pay out, but
> over a lifetime of frequent travelling, you'd be far more likely to
> pay more in insurance than you'd claim for losses, even if you did
> suffer a few minor losses. Personally I would only ever bother
> insuring against major losses, such as medical costs outside the EHIC
> area, repatriation from places with poor medical facilities etc.

Except that you can choose to buy an insurance only that one time you
actually have diamond jewelry or the like on your checked-in laggage
and don't buy one in all the other instances...

Jan
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 9:56 am
  #77  
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On Aug 14, 11:24 am, "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>
> > If you check-it in, I am not
> > convinced that the insurance-company will cover the loss as the
> > checked-in laggage is not locked (it is forbidden to lock it when
> > flying).
>
> Since when?

>From time to time the clerk at the check-in desk ask if the luggage
are open for inspectiion, but I admit many times they don't. Anyway,
the luggage should be possile to open for inspection.

Jan
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 9:57 am
  #78  
David Horne
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:50:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:31:03 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >[]
> >> >Going there without insurance is silly. But in the major
> >> >EU countries I agree that it isn't overly necessary.
> >>
> >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
> >
> >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>
> It is *my* normal everyday insurance.

Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal or
every day, surely? Even private health insurance in the UK won't
cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy plan
or pay extra for it.

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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:01 am
  #79  
-Martin
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:57:55 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:50:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:31:03 +0100, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >Going there without insurance is silly. But in the major
>> >> >EU countries I agree that it isn't overly necessary.
>> >>
>> >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>> >
>> >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>>
>> It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>
>Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal or
>every day, surely?

Nobody has said it is.

I pay for it. It probably costs me less than *your* normal insurance :-)


--

Martin
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:04 am
  #80  
William Black
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"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...

> -If you are on medications. Bring 2 sets of mecicines for the whole
> trip, pack one set with the checked-in luggage and one in your hand-
> luggage. Make sure you have the name of the medicine (and the active
> substance in it).

Silly advice

Many medicines can't stand the cold of an aircraft hold.


--
William Black


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Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:05 am
  #81  
-Andy Pandy
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
> > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
> > >
> > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
> >
> > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>
> Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
or
> every day, surely? Even private health insurance in the UK won't
> cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
plan
> or pay extra for it.

My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
'under the influence of alcohol').

--
Andy
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:09 am
  #82  
-Andy Pandy
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"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> > > If you check-it in, I am not
> > > convinced that the insurance-company will cover the loss as the
> > > checked-in laggage is not locked (it is forbidden to lock it
when
> > > flying).
> >
> > Since when?
>
> >From time to time the clerk at the check-in desk ask if the luggage
> are open for inspectiion, but I admit many times they don't. Anyway,
> the luggage should be possile to open for inspection.

They've never mentioned that to me. I've never read it in the baggage
rules for any airline I've flown with.

--
Andy
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:12 am
  #83  
David Horne
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Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
> > > >
> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
> > >
> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
> >
> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
> or
> > every day, surely? Even private health insurance in the UK won't
> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
> plan
> > or pay extra for it.
>
> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
> 'under the influence of alcohol').

My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
the US.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:15 am
  #84  
-Andy Pandy
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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in some
> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger). Why
> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>
> To make money?

Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then want
to search the baggage afterwards.

--
Andy
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:16 am
  #85  
David Horne
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Default Re: Travel Insurance enquiry

Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in some
> > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger). Why
> > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> >
> > To make money?
>
> Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then want
> to search the baggage afterwards.

If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the wrapping.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:16 am
  #86  
kurkku
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"Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected]...
>
> "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> > > If you check-it in, I am not
>> > > convinced that the insurance-company will cover the loss as the
>> > > checked-in laggage is not locked (it is forbidden to lock it
> when
>> > > flying).
>> >
>> > Since when?
>>
>> >From time to time the clerk at the check-in desk ask if the luggage
>> are open for inspectiion, but I admit many times they don't. Anyway,
>> the luggage should be possile to open for inspection.
>
> They've never mentioned that to me. I've never read it in the baggage
> rules for any airline I've flown with.
>
I guess it isn't only in an airline's interest to do so. For instance
Finnair advices passengers not to lock the hold luggage.
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:23 am
  #87  
-Martin
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Default Re: Travel Insurance enquiry

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:1i2u10v.h2oaxk1hlv2enN%[email protected]...
>> > > >> My normal everyday insurance covers me anywhere in the world.
>> > > >
>> > > >It's hardly normal everyday insurance then.
>> > >
>> > > It is *my* normal everyday insurance.
>> >
>> > Yes, but it's still a very generous form of insurance- hardly normal
>> or
>> > every day, surely? Even private health insurance in the UK won't
>> > cover you in the US normally, unless you have an extremely snazzy
>> plan
>> > or pay extra for it.
>>
>> My company's private medical insurance does, AIUI this is fairly
>> normal, and unlike most 'travel' insurance it doesn't exclude
>> pre-existing medical conditions, and allows you to have a drink or two
>> while enjoying your holiday (ie it doesn't have exclusions for being
>> 'under the influence of alcohol').
>
>My partner's plan defnitely doesn't include it, so I don't know how
>normal it is. I've only every had private insurance, er, when I lived in
>the US.

It's normal for staff and retired staff of International Organisations
--

Martin
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:24 am
  #88  
-Martin
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:15:34 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in some
>> >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger). Why
>> >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>>
>> To make money?
>
>Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then want
>to search the baggage afterwards.

as at least two of us have told you they do.

Are you really unaware that checked in luggage is searched?
--

Martin
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:25 am
  #89  
-Martin
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Default Re: Travel Insurance enquiry

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:16:18 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in some
>> > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger). Why
>> > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
>> >
>> > To make money?
>>
>> Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then want
>> to search the baggage afterwards.
>
>If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the wrapping.

or break the locks whichever is easiest.
--

Martin
 
Old Aug 14th 2007, 10:27 am
  #90  
-Andy Pandy
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Default Re: Travel Insurance enquiry

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:1i2u1yk.1a778ie1lez5vbN%[email protected]...
> > > >Some airports offer a service where they wrap your luggage in
some
> > > >sort of cling film like stuff (but presumably a lot stronger).
Why
> > > >would they do that if it's not allowed to 'lock' your luggage?
> > >
> > > To make money?
> >
> > Er, yes, but they'd hardly offer this service if they might then
want
> > to search the baggage afterwards.
>
> If they wanted to search the bag, they'd just cut through the
wrapping.

No doubt - but the point was, if it's 'forbidden' to lock your luggage
as claimed, then airports would hardly offer a service which
effectively does that!

--
Andy
 

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