4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other Americans?
Jun 29th 2004, 5:18 pm
#76
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Re: 4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other Americans?
Yes but I wouldnt go running over there if I had to spend july 14th in
SF...Theres much better to do, right ?
"poldy" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news
[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well it's just because we get a little tired of the kind of US people
who
> > enjoy waving their flags all over the place and think other countries
are
> > some kind of uncivilized places where only a good burger in an american
bar
> > would be acceptable if they accept payment in $$$
> > 4th of july is NOT a french celebration, sorry about that.
> > You go to France, well even if you're not happy about it, do try to go
to
> > french places there are quite a lot in Paris...
> On the other hand, I know the French consulate in San Francisco hosts
> some festivities for Bastille Day for French nationals in the Bay Area.
SF...Theres much better to do, right ?
"poldy" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news
[email protected]...> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well it's just because we get a little tired of the kind of US people
who
> > enjoy waving their flags all over the place and think other countries
are
> > some kind of uncivilized places where only a good burger in an american
bar
> > would be acceptable if they accept payment in $$$
> > 4th of july is NOT a french celebration, sorry about that.
> > You go to France, well even if you're not happy about it, do try to go
to
> > french places there are quite a lot in Paris...
> On the other hand, I know the French consulate in San Francisco hosts
> some festivities for Bastille Day for French nationals in the Bay Area.
Jun 29th 2004, 5:19 pm
#77
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OOOO !!!
"Magda" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:37:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
<[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Theres nothing much left with patriotism on july 14th
> ... It's simply the day for outdoor dancing and celebration, specially
when jean
> ... Michel jarre props up something on the Eiffel Tower...
> ... Even if french flags are put on the RATP buses, people certainly
don(t go
> ... about the streets waving flags or putting them on their homes or cars
!!!
> ... Besides in >Paris there aren't many french left on july 14th, you get
to see
> ... more tourists and immigrants, the others are elsewhere on holiday.
> ... That can be shocking to a normal american citizen but try think how
many
> ... deaths have been caused by so called patriotism.
> I confess, once I tied my hair up with a cocarde and went out in the
streets - the 14 July
> 1989 - but it was just that once !
> I won't be doing it again in 2089. ;-))
"Magda" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:37:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
<[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Theres nothing much left with patriotism on july 14th
> ... It's simply the day for outdoor dancing and celebration, specially
when jean
> ... Michel jarre props up something on the Eiffel Tower...
> ... Even if french flags are put on the RATP buses, people certainly
don(t go
> ... about the streets waving flags or putting them on their homes or cars
!!!
> ... Besides in >Paris there aren't many french left on july 14th, you get
to see
> ... more tourists and immigrants, the others are elsewhere on holiday.
> ... That can be shocking to a normal american citizen but try think how
many
> ... deaths have been caused by so called patriotism.
> I confess, once I tied my hair up with a cocarde and went out in the
streets - the 14 July
> 1989 - but it was just that once !
> I won't be doing it again in 2089. ;-))
Jun 29th 2004, 5:21 pm
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Well you put up with him and please dont export him
He should be behind the bars...and I dont mean french bistros
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected]...
> Runge wrote:
> > Whos your president?
> > Not THAT crook I hope !!
> Well, I for sure didn't VOTE for him (nor will I this next election),
> but so long as he's in the oval office, like it or not, he IS "our"
> president. (But hopefully not for much longer.)
> >
> > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >>Mxsmanic wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>(sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
> >>>>celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is
a
> >>>>week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Iraq was already independent before it was invaded.
> >>
> >>Not according to our president!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
He should be behind the bars...and I dont mean french bistros
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected]...
> Runge wrote:
> > Whos your president?
> > Not THAT crook I hope !!
> Well, I for sure didn't VOTE for him (nor will I this next election),
> but so long as he's in the oval office, like it or not, he IS "our"
> president. (But hopefully not for much longer.)
> >
> > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >>Mxsmanic wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>(sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
> >>>>celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is
a
> >>>>week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Iraq was already independent before it was invaded.
> >>
> >>Not according to our president!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Jun 29th 2004, 5:34 pm
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> Were you ever CLOSE with your family?
No.
> I get the impression, from many
> of your posts, that you've always been a "loner" (and somewhat
> anti-social).
Partially correct. I'm not antisocial.
> In that case, you probably wouldn't much care whether you
> had people around or not - might even prefer the "not".
That is often true.
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> Were you ever CLOSE with your family?
No.
> I get the impression, from many
> of your posts, that you've always been a "loner" (and somewhat
> anti-social).
Partially correct. I'm not antisocial.
> In that case, you probably wouldn't much care whether you
> had people around or not - might even prefer the "not".
That is often true.
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Jun 29th 2004, 7:38 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, Runge
<[email protected]> wrote:
> OK well no I dont travel for business
> I hope he does business one day in a country with absolutely no american
> crap bars, churches or whatever....learn to travel the hard way...or maybe
> change job !
> Do we have to put up with those guys who whine about home as soon as theyre
> out of it cos they do business elsewhere ?
> France isnt a US playground for those poooooor one day expatriates
What is France's most successful tourist attraction ?
jay
Wed Jun 30, 2004
mailto:[email protected]
>
> "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> news:[email protected]...
> > Runge writes:
> >
> > > It's simply the way >I feel about so called travellers who look for
> fellow
> > > americans in France when they feel lonely instead of trying to mingle
> with
> > > the locals.
> >
> > Sounds like you haven't travelled much for business.
> >
> > > There is a whole world besides the US, just try and think of it instead
> of
> > > recreating your country wherever you are...specially just for ONE day
> !!!!
> > > Surely you can't be that homesick !!!!
> >
> > You can if you are travelling on business.
> >
> > --
> > Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
>
<[email protected]> wrote:
> OK well no I dont travel for business
> I hope he does business one day in a country with absolutely no american
> crap bars, churches or whatever....learn to travel the hard way...or maybe
> change job !
> Do we have to put up with those guys who whine about home as soon as theyre
> out of it cos they do business elsewhere ?
> France isnt a US playground for those poooooor one day expatriates
What is France's most successful tourist attraction ?
jay
Wed Jun 30, 2004
mailto:[email protected]
>
> "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> news:[email protected]...
> > Runge writes:
> >
> > > It's simply the way >I feel about so called travellers who look for
> fellow
> > > americans in France when they feel lonely instead of trying to mingle
> with
> > > the locals.
> >
> > Sounds like you haven't travelled much for business.
> >
> > > There is a whole world besides the US, just try and think of it instead
> of
> > > recreating your country wherever you are...specially just for ONE day
> !!!!
> > > Surely you can't be that homesick !!!!
> >
> > You can if you are travelling on business.
> >
> > --
> > Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
>
Jun 29th 2004, 8:22 pm
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:06:44 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge" <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... LOL
... I wasn't so extreme !
... But I guess you're right.
Extreme ?? I was being "vague" ! ;-)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... LOL
... I wasn't so extreme !
... But I guess you're right.
Extreme ?? I was being "vague" ! ;-)
Jun 29th 2004, 8:32 pm
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:09:52 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... Runge wrote:
...
... > Whos your president?
... > Not THAT crook I hope !!
...
... Well, I for sure didn't VOTE for him (nor will I this next election),
... but so long as he's in the oval office, like it or not, he IS "our"
... president. (But hopefully not for much longer.)
Amen !
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... Runge wrote:
...
... > Whos your president?
... > Not THAT crook I hope !!
...
... Well, I for sure didn't VOTE for him (nor will I this next election),
... but so long as he's in the oval office, like it or not, he IS "our"
... president. (But hopefully not for much longer.)
Amen !
Jun 29th 2004, 8:38 pm
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:19:58 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge" <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... OOOO !!!
Don't you "OOOO" me, young man ! I have the right to act silly once every 200 years... ;-)
... "Magda" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
... news:[email protected]...
... > On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:37:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
... <[email protected]>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... Theres nothing much left with patriotism on july 14th
... > ... It's simply the day for outdoor dancing and celebration, specially
... when jean
... > ... Michel jarre props up something on the Eiffel Tower...
... > ... Even if french flags are put on the RATP buses, people certainly
... don(t go
... > ... about the streets waving flags or putting them on their homes or cars
... !!!
... > ... Besides in >Paris there aren't many french left on july 14th, you get
... to see
... > ... more tourists and immigrants, the others are elsewhere on holiday.
... > ... That can be shocking to a normal american citizen but try think how
... many
... > ... deaths have been caused by so called patriotism.
... >
... > I confess, once I tied my hair up with a cocarde and went out in the
... streets - the 14 July
... > 1989 - but it was just that once !
... >
... > I won't be doing it again in 2089. ;-))
... >
...
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... OOOO !!!
Don't you "OOOO" me, young man ! I have the right to act silly once every 200 years... ;-)
... "Magda" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
... news:[email protected]...
... > On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:37:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
... <[email protected]>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... Theres nothing much left with patriotism on july 14th
... > ... It's simply the day for outdoor dancing and celebration, specially
... when jean
... > ... Michel jarre props up something on the Eiffel Tower...
... > ... Even if french flags are put on the RATP buses, people certainly
... don(t go
... > ... about the streets waving flags or putting them on their homes or cars
... !!!
... > ... Besides in >Paris there aren't many french left on july 14th, you get
... to see
... > ... more tourists and immigrants, the others are elsewhere on holiday.
... > ... That can be shocking to a normal american citizen but try think how
... many
... > ... deaths have been caused by so called patriotism.
... >
... > I confess, once I tied my hair up with a cocarde and went out in the
... streets - the 14 July
... > 1989 - but it was just that once !
... >
... > I won't be doing it again in 2089. ;-))
... >
...
Jun 30th 2004, 12:45 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
> Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
They can be, often - FSVO fun.
[email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
> Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
They can be, often - FSVO fun.
Jun 30th 2004, 1:06 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> R Michael Guterres writes:
>
> > Yes it is.
>
> In that case, it's perfectly reasonable to want to stick to the habits
> of home. Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
Depends who takes the trips. I have fun on mine, and they meet _some_
definition of voluntary, in that I'm self-employed, and I choose which
trips to undertake.
David
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> R Michael Guterres writes:
>
> > Yes it is.
>
> In that case, it's perfectly reasonable to want to stick to the habits
> of home. Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
Depends who takes the trips. I have fun on mine, and they meet _some_
definition of voluntary, in that I'm self-employed, and I choose which
trips to undertake.
David
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jun 30th 2004, 4:57 am
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:15:52 +0200, "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote:
>No Larry I dont celebrate july 14 th, and a lot of people who do dont do it
>for patriotism.
I didn't say anything about your practice, Runge. And the same is true of our
July 4th -- many people will accept any excuse for a celebration.
>We dont need to wave flags around and shout our pride of being french.
*You* may not need to, but many others do. Those *are* tricolors I see being
waved during Sebastien Grosjean's and Amelie Mauresmo's matches at Wimbledon,
aren't they? And at international soccer matches? And when Henri Pescarolo's
team is doing well at Le Mans?
>We also try to be europeans, remember?
Just as we try to be North Americans, and share our July celebrations with our
Canadian brothers. 8
>So I can be anywhere that day...and usually am.
We can too -- but the odds are good that we'll be in Les Halles, with onglets
and pommes frites, a good Cahors, excellent cheeses, and several fine Calvados.
8
-- Larry
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>No Larry I dont celebrate july 14 th, and a lot of people who do dont do it
>for patriotism.
I didn't say anything about your practice, Runge. And the same is true of our
July 4th -- many people will accept any excuse for a celebration.
>We dont need to wave flags around and shout our pride of being french.
*You* may not need to, but many others do. Those *are* tricolors I see being
waved during Sebastien Grosjean's and Amelie Mauresmo's matches at Wimbledon,
aren't they? And at international soccer matches? And when Henri Pescarolo's
team is doing well at Le Mans?
>We also try to be europeans, remember?
Just as we try to be North Americans, and share our July celebrations with our
Canadian brothers. 8
>So I can be anywhere that day...and usually am.
We can too -- but the odds are good that we'll be in Les Halles, with onglets
and pommes frites, a good Cahors, excellent cheeses, and several fine Calvados.
8
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Jun 30th 2004, 5:28 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> poldy writes:
>
> > But do they really think about that particular Holiday?
>
> Does anyone ever "really think" about any holiday?
Yeah, but probably not all the same people "think" about the
same holiday. Christmas, Thanksgiving, and the 4th are my
big three. The rest kinda roll by. Alot of folks I work
with are focused on the 2 summer ones, Memorial and the 4th,
they also tend to be a bit more focused on 11/11 as well.
Eatonville makes a BIG deal outta Jan 19th.
To the original poster, I've spent most 4ths out of
country in the last 12 years or so. Regardless of where
we were, we often stumbled upon various themed celebrations
of one sort or another. There are enough of us floating around
during the summer that usually someone figures out how to make
a buck or two off of us. Some of them can be quite entertaining
since they are often "thrown" by people with little if any knowledge
of US traditions. One folk singer figured any song HE thought of
as American would qualify as a "patriotic" tune. Some how the
rendition of various Heart songs didn't seem to fit the bill for me.
A pub in London seemed a bit confused by the whole thing as they
whole place was festooned in both US flags and Union "jacks".
If I were in Paris, I'd probably get me a book that outlined the
Allied approach into Paris and do some walking. Might also visit
the site of the old Bastille. We still got the keys, but they ain't
got the locks no more. By the by, within Paris you can find a
park with a Statue of FDR, and street named after Wilson, and one
after Kennedy too IIRC. The French and the US are much like
sibilings. Often giving each other a hard time, but there together
in the end.
Quite honestly, we wouldn't be celebrating the 4th if the French
hadn't been there at Yorktown so there is some symetry there. Go
announce "Lafayette, we are here" in a bar or something.
> poldy writes:
>
> > But do they really think about that particular Holiday?
>
> Does anyone ever "really think" about any holiday?
Yeah, but probably not all the same people "think" about the
same holiday. Christmas, Thanksgiving, and the 4th are my
big three. The rest kinda roll by. Alot of folks I work
with are focused on the 2 summer ones, Memorial and the 4th,
they also tend to be a bit more focused on 11/11 as well.
Eatonville makes a BIG deal outta Jan 19th.
To the original poster, I've spent most 4ths out of
country in the last 12 years or so. Regardless of where
we were, we often stumbled upon various themed celebrations
of one sort or another. There are enough of us floating around
during the summer that usually someone figures out how to make
a buck or two off of us. Some of them can be quite entertaining
since they are often "thrown" by people with little if any knowledge
of US traditions. One folk singer figured any song HE thought of
as American would qualify as a "patriotic" tune. Some how the
rendition of various Heart songs didn't seem to fit the bill for me.
A pub in London seemed a bit confused by the whole thing as they
whole place was festooned in both US flags and Union "jacks".
If I were in Paris, I'd probably get me a book that outlined the
Allied approach into Paris and do some walking. Might also visit
the site of the old Bastille. We still got the keys, but they ain't
got the locks no more. By the by, within Paris you can find a
park with a Statue of FDR, and street named after Wilson, and one
after Kennedy too IIRC. The French and the US are much like
sibilings. Often giving each other a hard time, but there together
in the end.
Quite honestly, we wouldn't be celebrating the 4th if the French
hadn't been there at Yorktown so there is some symetry there. Go
announce "Lafayette, we are here" in a bar or something.
Jun 30th 2004, 5:28 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> R Michael Guterres writes:
>> Yes it is.
> In that case, it's perfectly reasonable to want to stick to the habits
> of home. Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
No reason they shouldn't be fun (and yes, I take a lot of business trips).
miguel
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> R Michael Guterres writes:
>> Yes it is.
> In that case, it's perfectly reasonable to want to stick to the habits
> of home. Business trips are not voluntary, and they are not fun.
No reason they shouldn't be fun (and yes, I take a lot of business trips).
miguel
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Jun 30th 2004, 5:33 am
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Runge <[email protected]> wrote:
> And no, theres no rootbeer in France.
I bet there is.
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> And no, theres no rootbeer in France.
I bet there is.
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Jun 30th 2004, 5:38 am
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You'd think we *where* from the continual commentary here...<g>
Tim K
"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No not anti american, you're not the centre of the world.
Tim K
"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No not anti american, you're not the centre of the world.
