4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other Americans?
Jun 28th 2004, 4:39 pm
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Re: 4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other Americans?
Quasimodo... Is that you...?
Tim K
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> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> > In the U. S. Thanksgiving, Christmas (or
> > Passover) and Independence Day are traditionally family
celebrations.
> > If one is alone at such times, with nothing special to do, one CAN
be
> > lonely.
> One can be, but one need not be. They are just days like any others.
I
> haven't spent any of these holidays with anyone in many years, and I'm
> not lonely.
> > The issue is not one of "forgetting" ANYTHING - purely one of
feeling
> > lonely on an occasion when he is accustomed to being with people,
> > partying.
> If it were only that, then any gathering of people would suffice--it
> wouldn't have to be for the Fourth of July. And as far as "partying"
> goes, one can get drunk just about anywhere in Paris.
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Tim K
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> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> > In the U. S. Thanksgiving, Christmas (or
> > Passover) and Independence Day are traditionally family
celebrations.
> > If one is alone at such times, with nothing special to do, one CAN
be
> > lonely.
> One can be, but one need not be. They are just days like any others.
I
> haven't spent any of these holidays with anyone in many years, and I'm
> not lonely.
> > The issue is not one of "forgetting" ANYTHING - purely one of
feeling
> > lonely on an occasion when he is accustomed to being with people,
> > partying.
> If it were only that, then any gathering of people would suffice--it
> wouldn't have to be for the Fourth of July. And as far as "partying"
> goes, one can get drunk just about anywhere in Paris.
> --
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Jun 28th 2004, 5:34 pm
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Re: 4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet
Mxsmanic wrote:
> SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron writes:
>
>
>>(sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
>>celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is a
>>week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
>
>
> Iraq was already independent before it was invaded.
Not according to our president!
>
> SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron writes:
>
>
>>(sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
>>celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is a
>>week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
>
>
> Iraq was already independent before it was invaded.
Not according to our president!
>
Jun 28th 2004, 5:40 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
>
>
>>I think I'd be a bit hesitant to attend one. Ordinarily I don't put
>>much stock in all the "the French hate Americans" crap, but such a
>>distinctly American festival might draw some unwelcome attention from
>>Arab Moslems there.
>
>
> No, it won't. It would be a greater potential target for terrorists, in
> theory, but the risk of that is still very low.
>
That's why I included the "perhaps not" - despite the unpopularity of
our government, I've not noticed any anti-American feeling in my
travels. (Like the myth of the "rude" Parisians, it would appear to be
more due to the attitude of the American tourist encountering people of
other countries, and thus self-fulfilling prophecies.)
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
>
>
>>I think I'd be a bit hesitant to attend one. Ordinarily I don't put
>>much stock in all the "the French hate Americans" crap, but such a
>>distinctly American festival might draw some unwelcome attention from
>>Arab Moslems there.
>
>
> No, it won't. It would be a greater potential target for terrorists, in
> theory, but the risk of that is still very low.
>
That's why I included the "perhaps not" - despite the unpopularity of
our government, I've not noticed any anti-American feeling in my
travels. (Like the myth of the "rude" Parisians, it would appear to be
more due to the attitude of the American tourist encountering people of
other countries, and thus self-fulfilling prophecies.)
Jun 28th 2004, 5:45 pm
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:20:37 -0400, SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron wrote:
> If my memory serves me right, this question was asked this time last
> year.
Probably the best time to ask. I'd have thought.
--
Tim C.
> If my memory serves me right, this question was asked this time last
> year.
Probably the best time to ask. I'd have thought.
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Jun 28th 2004, 5:46 pm
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Re: 4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet
Mxsmanic wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
>
>
>>In the U. S. Thanksgiving, Christmas (or
>>Passover) and Independence Day are traditionally family celebrations.
>>If one is alone at such times, with nothing special to do, one CAN be
>>lonely.
>
>
> One can be, but one need not be. They are just days like any others. I
> haven't spent any of these holidays with anyone in many years, and I'm
> not lonely.
Perhaps it depends upon how long you've been without a family? When I
first struck out on my own, I suffered agonies of homesickness on
holidays - until I learned to find other things to occupy me. Of
course, it helps to remind oneself that they are, indeed "just days like
any others", but it may take a bit longer (and a few more holidays
alone) before one convinces oneself of the fact.
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
>
>
>>In the U. S. Thanksgiving, Christmas (or
>>Passover) and Independence Day are traditionally family celebrations.
>>If one is alone at such times, with nothing special to do, one CAN be
>>lonely.
>
>
> One can be, but one need not be. They are just days like any others. I
> haven't spent any of these holidays with anyone in many years, and I'm
> not lonely.
Perhaps it depends upon how long you've been without a family? When I
first struck out on my own, I suffered agonies of homesickness on
holidays - until I learned to find other things to occupy me. Of
course, it helps to remind oneself that they are, indeed "just days like
any others", but it may take a bit longer (and a few more holidays
alone) before one convinces oneself of the fact.
Jun 28th 2004, 7:42 pm
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On 29/06/04 3:20, in article
[email protected], "SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> rdynamix wrote:
>
>> I'm going to Paris on Friday and would like to
>> know if anyone knows of any 4th of July
>> parties or activites for americans.
>
>> I'll be alone over there and it would be great to
>> join any activities on July 4.
>
> If my memory serves me right, this question was asked this time last
> year.
>
> (sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
> celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is a
> week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
>
There is a French-American celebration at Lafayette's tomb in the Picpus
cemetery. This includes a US Marine Band playing the US national
anthem. Lafayette was given American citizenship for his contributions
of time, money and stirring up support in France at the time of the American
revolution. My wife once watch it from the window of a hospital room next to
the cemetery (well placed in case of doctor errors, the trip is
short!).
This year the 4th is on a Sunday, but if it had occurred during the
week the American Library in the 7th would have been closed, and I
suspect the American University in the same arrondissement. Embassy
services also. But these are closed Sunday anyway, so this year
that doesn`t count.
Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
Earl
[email protected], "SÃ¥ndor, the Gypsy Baron"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> rdynamix wrote:
>
>> I'm going to Paris on Friday and would like to
>> know if anyone knows of any 4th of July
>> parties or activites for americans.
>
>> I'll be alone over there and it would be great to
>> join any activities on July 4.
>
> If my memory serves me right, this question was asked this time last
> year.
>
> (sigh) Things just don't change. Other countries still refuse to
> celebrate the Fourth of July. And now even Iraq's Independence Day is a
> week earlier than the "real" Independence Day.
>
There is a French-American celebration at Lafayette's tomb in the Picpus
cemetery. This includes a US Marine Band playing the US national
anthem. Lafayette was given American citizenship for his contributions
of time, money and stirring up support in France at the time of the American
revolution. My wife once watch it from the window of a hospital room next to
the cemetery (well placed in case of doctor errors, the trip is
short!).
This year the 4th is on a Sunday, but if it had occurred during the
week the American Library in the 7th would have been closed, and I
suspect the American University in the same arrondissement. Embassy
services also. But these are closed Sunday anyway, so this year
that doesn`t count.
Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
Earl
Jun 28th 2004, 8:08 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> JX Bardant writes:
>
> > Isn't there some reception at the American embassy ?
>
> No more so than there is a party at Fort Knox.
French embassies do it for the 14th of July, that's why I ask.
> JX Bardant writes:
>
> > Isn't there some reception at the American embassy ?
>
> No more so than there is a party at Fort Knox.
French embassies do it for the 14th of July, that's why I ask.
Jun 29th 2004, 12:21 am
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:42:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
>does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
>two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
>but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
>would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
>visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
>Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
>does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
>two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
>but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
>would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
>visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
Jun 29th 2004, 1:00 am
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JX Bardant writes:
> French embassies do it for the 14th of July, that's why I ask.
The French aren't as cowardly as the Americans in this respect. Try
stopping by the U.S. embassy in Paris to say hi, and see how far you
get.
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> French embassies do it for the 14th of July, that's why I ask.
The French aren't as cowardly as the Americans in this respect. Try
stopping by the U.S. embassy in Paris to say hi, and see how far you
get.
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Jun 29th 2004, 1:01 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> Not according to our president!
So?
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> Not according to our president!
So?
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Jun 29th 2004, 1:02 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> Perhaps it depends upon how long you've been without a family?
I don't think so. I wasn't lonely on the first holidays I spent alone,
either.
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> Perhaps it depends upon how long you've been without a family?
I don't think so. I wasn't lonely on the first holidays I spent alone,
either.
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Jun 29th 2004, 1:02 am
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Rita writes:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:42:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
> >does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
> >two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
> >but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
> >would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
> >visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
> >
> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
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> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:42:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
> >does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
> >two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
> >but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
> >would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
> >visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
> >
> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
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Jun 29th 2004, 1:03 am
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Rita writes:
> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
The Bastille wasn't torn down by a mob. They free the prisoners (only
seven or so, as you correctly believe), and killed the staff. The
Bastille stood for much longer. You can still see the remains of one of
the towers in Paris, although it has been moved from its original
location. It wasn't very big, but it was sturdy. The most famous
prisoner was probably the "man in the iron mask," who stayed there for a
while.
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> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
The Bastille wasn't torn down by a mob. They free the prisoners (only
seven or so, as you correctly believe), and killed the staff. The
Bastille stood for much longer. You can still see the remains of one of
the towers in Paris, although it has been moved from its original
location. It wasn't very big, but it was sturdy. The most famous
prisoner was probably the "man in the iron mask," who stayed there for a
while.
--
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Jun 29th 2004, 1:12 am
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:03:40 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>Rita writes:
>> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
>> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
>The Bastille wasn't torn down by a mob. They free the prisoners (only
>seven or so, as you correctly believe), and killed the staff. The
>Bastille stood for much longer. You can still see the remains of one of
>the towers in Paris, although it has been moved from its original
>location. It wasn't very big, but it was sturdy. The most famous
>prisoner was probably the "man in the iron mask," who stayed there for a
>while.
Yes, I miswrote. The Bastille was torn down later. But I was surprised
to learn it had housed only 7 prisoners at the time of the uprising.
>Rita writes:
>> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
>> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
>The Bastille wasn't torn down by a mob. They free the prisoners (only
>seven or so, as you correctly believe), and killed the staff. The
>Bastille stood for much longer. You can still see the remains of one of
>the towers in Paris, although it has been moved from its original
>location. It wasn't very big, but it was sturdy. The most famous
>prisoner was probably the "man in the iron mask," who stayed there for a
>while.
Yes, I miswrote. The Bastille was torn down later. But I was surprised
to learn it had housed only 7 prisoners at the time of the uprising.
Jun 29th 2004, 2:51 am
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On 29/06/04 14:21, in article [email protected],
"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:42:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
>> does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
>> two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
>> but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
>> would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
>> visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
>>
> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
Rita, glad to see you here!
Yes, the story is something like that and of course the French realize
that the incident it self is symbolic more than real.
Some cynics have mentioned that the Star Spangled Banner is not than
great a national anthem and written about a minor battle in a war
which the United States lost! But the symbolism and feelings of
the average patriot overrides realities, as with July 14th here in
France.
Earl
"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:42:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Perhaps one of the few American restaurants in Paris (like Joe Allen's)
>> does something. But it is not a biggie in France, the big one comes
>> two weeks later when the French celebrate the historical significant
>> but ridiculous taking of the Bastille. They then tore down what now
>> would be a great tourist spot to visit. Fortunately one can still
>> visit a period fort at Vincennes. Which I recommend.
>>
> I recently read that when the Bastille was torn down by an angry
> mob it had only seven prisoners in confinement.
Rita, glad to see you here!
Yes, the story is something like that and of course the French realize
that the incident it self is symbolic more than real.
Some cynics have mentioned that the Star Spangled Banner is not than
great a national anthem and written about a minor battle in a war
which the United States lost! But the symbolism and feelings of
the average patriot overrides realities, as with July 14th here in
France.
Earl
