House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
Jul 4th 2012, 1:18 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
The Concierge my pay the cleaner cash but then he/she has to pay for cleaning materials, transporting the cleaner, income tax and caixa (social security).
The concierge will then have to visit the property to check that it is in order.
And remember that caixa has to be paid all year around, not just during the season!
The concierge will then have to visit the property to check that it is in order.
And remember that caixa has to be paid all year around, not just during the season!
Jul 4th 2012, 1:35 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
It should not be hard to work out how much to offer a cleaner.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Jul 4th 2012, 2:05 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
It should not be hard to work out how much to offer a cleaner.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Jul 4th 2012, 2:11 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
It should not be hard to work out how much to offer a cleaner.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Peter
Jul 4th 2012, 2:38 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
485€ per month divide by 160 hrs @ 40hrs per week = 3.03125 per hour.
That's the reality of it you and i wouldn't work for that but we aren't local Portuguese on a minimum wage.
Peter
That's the reality of it you and i wouldn't work for that but we aren't local Portuguese on a minimum wage.
Peter
Jul 4th 2012, 2:42 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
I do work here and understand how much you can or cannot earn and as I said, you would not get anyone to work for 3€ an hour on a casual basis.
Jul 4th 2012, 11:33 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
It should not be hard to work out how much to offer a cleaner.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
Minimum pay per month Portugal for workers with contract is €485 for a 40 hour week.
Unemployment is 15% and increasing.
Even more stringent labour laws coming in 1st August mean workers have even less minimum rights and job security Overtime and weekend work rates are slashed together with reduced holiday pay.
Lets look at the vast majority down here who work in the service sector casual, part-time and within the black economy. Cash in hand. and tax free.
Its a case of a few hours irregular work per day, take it or leave it, €3 max/hour. Of course on top of a subsistence allowance called unemployment benefit and providing they have paid enough prior contributions.
In these days, I am pretty sure that if you offer 3 Euro/hour you will get someone, the question is can you sleep well?
Jul 4th 2012, 7:45 pm
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
If you ask the casual bar staff what they earn on a part-time basis then you
will find €3 is normal. I checked yesterday. Admittedly the girl I asked was
eastern European.
If word got around that that the gringo up the road was prepared to pay up to €10/hour for a cleaner then there would be a queue 1km long at my door.
I wouldn't be sleeping easily as I would be expecting to be burgled.
regards
will find €3 is normal. I checked yesterday. Admittedly the girl I asked was
eastern European.
If word got around that that the gringo up the road was prepared to pay up to €10/hour for a cleaner then there would be a queue 1km long at my door.
I wouldn't be sleeping easily as I would be expecting to be burgled.
regards
Jul 4th 2012, 9:09 pm
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
As I posted previously, a guy I know works at the local GALP serving vehicle fuel, as it's not a self serve site and he earns about 500€ per month for a 6 day week. Not sure how many hours but I reckon it equates to what is being quoted in other posts, about 3€ per hour. 
He's just glad to have a regular job.
He's just glad to have a regular job.
Jul 5th 2012, 12:50 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/
A timely article in todays Correio da Manha. page 16.
National Health Nursing staff €3.96 Nutritionists €4.53./hour
Perhaps Troia may enlighten us further.?
It looks like the problem down here with our web subscribers is that they,
like Cameron and his millionaire cabinet members back in the UK have no idea about what is happening at street level and have no idea about life outside the SE of England. They are just completely out of touch.
A timely article in todays Correio da Manha. page 16.
National Health Nursing staff €3.96 Nutritionists €4.53./hour
Perhaps Troia may enlighten us further.?
It looks like the problem down here with our web subscribers is that they,
like Cameron and his millionaire cabinet members back in the UK have no idea about what is happening at street level and have no idea about life outside the SE of England. They are just completely out of touch.
Jul 5th 2012, 1:23 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
I think you may wish to consider curbing your tongue, assuming that all subscribers to this thread do not work or have workers, a very big and ignorant assumption indeed!!
Jul 9th 2012, 4:58 am
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http://algarvedailynews.com/news/698...ase-in-numbers
Guess this backs up my earlier comments.
regards
Guess this backs up my earlier comments.
regards
Jul 9th 2012, 6:49 am
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
There's also a piece in the Portugal news this week that says new nurses are being offered contracts at under 4 per hour.
That's for trained, certified, nurses.
And the brain-drain accelerates...
That's for trained, certified, nurses.
And the brain-drain accelerates...
Jul 14th 2012, 9:28 pm
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Re: House Cleaners' Rates of Pay
Our concièrge has just recently decided that €8 per hour was an appropriate wage for a cleaner. So for seven hours on the job (no break) we are to pay her €56.
Give up teaching, and become a cleaner. You'll make twice the national average wage, and not pay a bean in taxes
Give up teaching, and become a cleaner. You'll make twice the national average wage, and not pay a bean in taxes
