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Gunfire and disorder in the Benfica Market. "Several people" involved

Old Dec 23rd 2025 | 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by EU.flag
... (more made up stuff) ...
Tell you what - if you want a lengthy discussion about immigration in Portugal, why don't you start a thread about it instead of shoe-horning it into a thread about something else?

I might join in. It's a topic in which I take an interest.
 
Old Dec 23rd 2025 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by EU.flag
. What was original estimated 50k, turned in 400k applicants.

If you chose to condone such creazy system of migration, its only your choice. Not mine.
I condone it, I think it's great to have all these hard working Asian people here.
Two Indian couples have moved in next door to us, one baby was born.
I made a point of stopping by to welcome them to the neighborhood.
 
Old Dec 23rd 2025 | 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by liveaboard
I condone it, I think it's great to have all these hard working Asian people here.
Two Indian couples have moved in next door to us, one baby was born.
I made a point of stopping by to welcome them to the neighborhood.
Does it really matter if they are Indian or not. There are plenty of hardworking people across the globe regardless of nationality or the continent they're from.

I think most people would welcome their neighbours, the bigger issue is when there are too many neighbours.
A work colleague was protesting this week as they are planning high-rise student accommodation next to his estate with hundreds of beds and many residents are concerned.

Now they aren't considered racists because it's students, but if the same people had concerns about a refugee centre, they'd be labelled racist.

So maybe we shouldn't always focus on nationality but look at the actual situation, something that's ignored these days.





 
Old Dec 24th 2025 | 10:21 am
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Yes, many people dislike any other people who would move into "their" area.
But that's life; the population moves, grows, builds.
Sometimes, next to you.
Things change.

 
Old Dec 24th 2025 | 10:57 pm
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Default Re: Gunfire and disorder in the Benfica Market. "Several people" involved

Originally Posted by liveaboard
I condone it, I think it's great to have all these hard working Asian people here.
Two Indian couples have moved in next door to us, one baby was born.
I made a point of stopping by to welcome them to the neighborhood.
Wow! What a lot of ambiguous presumptions!
You met one Asian couple and now every Asian is hard working!
Did you also meet all 100k's of them? Do you know them all personally? Do you employ all of them, so you can see how hard working they are?
I bet you also vetted them personally and none of them have any criminal past.

In contrary, I met none of them and unless proven otherwise, I reserve my opinion. Without doubt, some of them will be hard working, but not all.
While immigration is beneficial to growth of any country, it must be controlled and planned. You would want best, not any and every.
 
Old Dec 25th 2025 | 3:03 am
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Default Re: Gunfire and disorder in the Benfica Market. "Several people" involved

Originally Posted by liveaboard
Yes, many people dislike any other people who would move into "their" area.
But that's life; the population moves, grows, builds.
Sometimes, next to you.
Things change.
That's the whole point and many people aren't racist, they just want to protect the area and things they value. If we want to look to Asia, this the problem in many countries across Europe compared to a country like Japan. In Japan you either respect their culture and they make it very hard for outsiders, but they wouldn't be considered racist.

No doubt some would also say they are racist but most of us here would probably think it's great they keep their strong cultural values and if visiting would make an effort to fit in.

In many countries across Europe local people now have to adapt so the new visitors feel at home, shouldn't it be the opposite? I also understand why people in Spain, Italy or Portugal are sick of tourists regardless of their nationality. Yes, things change but you don't have to accept everything.

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