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do you have a link?

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There is no related link on the US Embassy, Philippines. They just advise all US citizens globally to return to the US.

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Sorry not now. I got it from an American friend but MikeK1 took a photo of it to pass on. Maybe he can provide the link.

Regards

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I saw that the other day ( poss Tuesday/Wednesday ), I think it was in one of the AOL news articles that pop up when you open aol email.

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There is nothing like this on the State Department Travel Alerts for the Philippines. In fact on their advisory regarding Manila they just say follow the instructions of the Philippines government and Health Authorities.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ippines.html#/

I call "Fake News".

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Typically not much left to loot after the sort of natural disasters occurring here!

Roughly speaking government spending here is only about 20% of GDP...Britain's in the high 30s% and will soon go much higher. The government here planned the biggest spending increases for education and infrastructure building this year. Their disaster reserves won't be nearly enough and the typhoon season is near. They certainly cannot get anywhere near the 80% payment promised to British workers laid off due to coronavirus closures. So few have got regular salaried employment anyway.

I am assuming food handouts from the Barangay will be about it. They are really needed as our experience in Paranaque is that many of the smaller markets have been closed. Otherwise the government will pressure some of the big corporations to help. But so far there are only announcements by some utility companies to be lenient with unpaid bills.

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Every cloud has a silver lining fabulous air quality !

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Manila always has the best air quality in Asia according to CNN air quality survey and normally better than Tokyo and Singapore.

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I suggest you look at the date of that bulletin. April 2019.

Went to buy emperadour today and was told that sales have been banned. I assume that applies to all hard liquor.

Guess that tells us something...

Regards

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...and a number of local pharmacies were out of Viagra yesterday!

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Try copious amounts of water melon.....supposed to work so I am reliable informed.


Best regards

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I have retrieved the statement from the State Dept....

US State Dept advisory. All Americans leave Manila and Cebu, says over 3-4 million Filipinos in the metropolis has only 3 days of cash left. Another 4-5 Million one week’s food. They do not wish to alarm but there is a potential for an increase in crimes for looting and violation of the quarantine. Philippine military and police must exercise good judgment. As the more serious immediate impact from the outbreak which is psychology will cause panic and desperation. The state department is advising the Philippine government to setup feeding centers and assistance centers for people who doesnt have the ability to last in this quarantine

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That certainly isn't US State Department style language. They don't give government-to-government advice in public Travel Advisories. It would be done very privately or President Duterte would simply start ranting about US interference. This sounds very much like a fake post.

The State Department has not issued any Travel Advisory for the Philippines since 2019. But the US Embassy HAS issued a Health Advisory on March 17. 2020. It mentions nothing about about riots, food shortages, etc.

https://ph.usembassy.gov/health-aler...march-17-2020/

I've also looked through all the twitter announcements by the US Embassy in the Philippines. NADA, Nil, Zilch.

https://twitter.com/usembassyph?lang=en

Where's your link to these extreme claims?

I also looked for the post that you said was made by Mike1. I couldn't find it when looking through all his listed posts.

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If you had read my post more carefully I stated that he took a photo of it to pass on.. Nothing about posting here

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there has not been any such formal government advice by the US. Their grammar is way too superior for such low grade communication.

''The state department is advising the Philippine government to setup feeding centers and assistance centers for people who doesnt have the ability to last in this quarantine''

Without being a grammar ''nazi'' this is just too poor to be true!!

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See my response to RedApe on the £ forum

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"Originally Posted by mikemike [img]images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/img]
"do you have a link?"
Phil11: "Sorry not now. I got it from an American friend but MikeK1 took a photo of it to pass on. Maybe he can provide the link. "

So where's the "photo" of "it"? Why just present your own "version" of this so-called "official" release...oh wait, it wasn't an official release...it was from a friend (that you trust implicitly") that got it from a friend.

You are just spreading fake news that could foment a panic. I suggest that you apologise, back away from the claim, and stop.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/20/...l-go-after-you

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I saw your response that has no credibility at all. Suggest you re read my post re grammar and UX state department standards. There is a clear and obvious dichotomy.

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"MANILA - The Philippine National Police on Friday warned purveyors of “fake news” of possible charges after false reports of massive looting in Manila went viral as the government imposed a month-long lockdown in Luzon.

PNP chief Gen. Archie Gamboa said he tasked the police force’s anti-cybercrime group to trace those spreading false information online.

“This is a warning to everybody because based on the Revised Penal Code, as amended on stiffer penalties under Republic Act No. 10951, you can be punished by disseminating, posting fake news so again we discourage people to do this,” Gamboa said during a televised press briefing.

“Hindi kayo nakakatulong, but the Philippine National Police will go after you, so huwag niyo kaming subukan at hahabulin namin kayo,” he said.

(You are not helping but the PNP will go after you so don’t try us because we will go after you.)

• Fight fake news: Here's a list of online resources on COVID-19 in the Philippines

The police chief said the PNP would soon show an “example” on how purveyors of false information can face charges.

A text message that recently made rounds claimed that the Philippines was vulnerable to looting because the average Filipino family only had a week’s worth of savings. The message cited a supposed study by the US State Department.

Officers were also dispatched to areas where social media users claimed there were incidents of looting and found no such crimes there, said PNP spokesperson Brig. Gen. Bernard Banac".
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/20/...l-go-after-you

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To both Red ape and Mikemike. You can can believe what you wish. I have seen that statement from the PNP chief which was issued a few days ago. I suspect the information was passed on by those who were informed by the US embassy advising them to move because of the possible unrest. I personally can see that happening soon.

As far as MikeK1 is concerned only he can say what he did with the photo. Not me

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I hate to say this P11 but as a lurker on your thread about your family I now have a serious doubts about the veracity of the whole story. I'll believe you when Mike1 posts the supposed photo but I suspect thats not going to happen.

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i do believe what I wish

more importantly I disbelieve bola bola when I sniff it. That any sane intelligent person can believe that such a poorly crafted statement is official suggests they have lost the plot. To the point that any other posts they make or may have made be treated with same thoughts.

Things are hard enough for people here without irresponsible and plain dumb posts being made.

I wonder how offended US embassy staff are at being accused of making such poorly crafted ''official'' statements.

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More disasters with this virus. Went to have my hair cut again today but barbers still shut, there are 3 guys who cut hair and normally at least one is there. The security guard opposite told me that it has been shut for over 2 weeks. Apparently someone told them they had to use lots of alcohol to keep from getting the virus but seemed to have neglected to tell them it was for washing their hands and face, so they have been on a two week bender with Tanduay. Still a pony tail is in fashion apparently.

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Try to have your beard trimmed when the barber insists you wear a mask!
:o

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This isn't the first time this has happened.With a very convincing announcement template, too. Amazing what photoshop can produce!


https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/fa...-vfa-scrapping

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Some people are easily fooled. They'll believe anything even when all evidence points to the contrary

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What's important is not just grocery and medical. As well as barber shops it seems to me there are a number of other useful and necessary services that with certain protocols could be operated quite safely during the coming months. Eg last week no notary publics were open locally, all small car shops were shut, hardwares too. Yet a housing construction site was still working near us. Even two branches of a regional chain of pawn shops were shut, with no notices outside. People need something to do as well as to earn money.

Guidance can be tweaked eg quantity restrictions at supermarkets are causing problems for Sari Sari stores.

How long can the government here afford to support poor families? If as seems likely we are looking at a wave of virus spread middle class families will also begin to run out of money. The Philippines is not big for online shopping, so a small government budget with many more months of lockdown will ruin the economy. People will get sick, or sicker, and maybe die from other existing physical or mental health conditions because they can't afford their medicines.

Some relaxation of the lockdown after the first month can mitigate the damage. I think the Barangays must be wanting to be less restrictive, but are being stopped by those at the top..

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Interestingly enough we ran out of cooking gas this morning. The usual source advised that were not allowed in as not exempt from the lock down!! Had to go get it myself passes in and passes out etc etc

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Agree entirely. Had to get a quarantine pass to enter town.

I see on the news that some parts of manilla will have a 24 hour curfew in the coming days. They say its to combat the virus. I don't believe that for one moment.

Troops and police abound here where we have been locked down for about one week now

​​​​​​Re gards

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we have a 24 hour lockdown with exemptions as identified

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/fam...43C?li=AAnZ9Ug

This has been in place since sunday, passes are free and car tyres are being sprayed

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The main Philpost recently closed here in Paranaque. Obviously not seen as an essential public service!

So once you are able to find a bank manager, doctor etc actually at his or her desk to sign your "Proof of Life" form it may be difficult to find a Philpost open.. But even if you can I'm guessing the service might be poor as passenger flights to the UK are greatly reduced. So an alternative like LBC, whose offices seem to be open, might be better. Even if costing a lot more.

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Don't count on LBC, offices they declared open have not been in operation since the lockdown started. Suggest a Skype call to DWP.

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Forget what I have just posted about calling DWP.

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Maybe, but I found one open today in Paranaque. Long wait social distanced outside though.

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barangay Bel air in makati have in effect closed 7/11 and other food/grocery stores to non Bel air residents. To enter you have to have a Bel air Barangay pass. So much for ensuring vital foo supplierss are exempted from draconian stupidity when local despots can behave like this. The main footfall for such places in that area is the BPO industry, You know the one that has NATIONAL exempt status not recognised by Barangay Bel air!!!

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Have got my Barangay quarantine pass today while walking to the market, I asked the issuers what I was allowed to and not allowed to do. Blank looks all round. Neither the local Mayor, Municipal hall nor Barangay hall have issued any do's and do not regs/instructions. Wife has found on facebook requirements from a policeman's wife who works for the health center. Absolute chaos.

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Just the Opposite here. Home Quarantine Pass comes with three page, 16 paragraph "advisory".

Pass can have an alternate name, but only one can use it on trips. Think that is making shopping unnecessarily difficult and will be counter productive in that it will result in more trips to handle the quantity and ensure the right products purchased. I would guess the great majority of household drivers are male, but it's the females who mainly choose what to buy.

Also it says that "capable" Senior Citizens can be named on the pass!

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Tried to go into town the other morning and stopped by the police..."Quarantine Pass sir" Said I didnt have one. Ok....go to the Barangay Capt and get one. Off I trots to see the Brgy Capt. "May I have a quarantine pass please". Knows nothing about it. Told to try the medical centre. Off I go again....Gets to medical centre. "quarantine pass please" Look of puzzlement on their faces. Rings boss. She then asks how long I have been in Phils. 5 years I reply proudly. "No sir...you cannot have" She tells me that I can only get one if I have entered Phils since Covoid 19 started. I didnt see the logic in that and after a discussion I hand the phone back to the nurse. Another discussion. "Yes sir, we will give you a pass". Thank you I said....have a nice day.

I think my pass is for alternate days. I bypass that by going to the other side of the road to the police check. Never stopped. I also understand that senior citizens are not allowed in town....So far so good. I keep my face well covered with my mask and walk with a gait of a new born lamb...

Regards

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A tale of three Paranaque supermarkets I visited this morning... First, at 9.30 am ,drove to an All Day. Lined up, outside and inside, for over an hour. Finally got my basket to find there was no bread at all, and some other big gaps. A bit like going to an attraction in places like London or LA. Even a mini lecture. Two temperature checks. Maybe because of the length of time between the first check on entering from outside and the second on getting into the supermarket COVID-19 symptoms could develop! On leaving after 2 hours and getting just a few items I was thinking that All Day was a rather apt name!

But it was nothing compared with the Paranaque Waltermart. It's on the third floor of a small mall and the line of people waiting at midday snaked around all three levels and continued out into the ground floor covered car park. Looked at least 500 people. Lining up time must be at least 4 hours from the end. Normally it's not very busy, even on a Saturday. Much worse than the SM Sucat Hypermarket, which I visited earlier in the week. I didn't join the line.

Can only guess that many smaller shops can't get supplies now.

Finally got a good load of shopping at a small Puregold. Would have had to wait outside there in a line of 20 people in the hot sun..though maybe for only about 30 mins, Thankfully was prioritized as a Senior and went straight in. To my relief they had bread, sardines and hotdogs..., though they had none of those items on the shelves last Wednesday.

Conclusions..get out early and just be aware that the availability of some basic food items on any particular day cannot be guaranteed.

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Sadly in Marikina Seniors are not permitted in most supermarkets. So my asawa who is a front line health professional has to undertake the shopping. Her practice is to start queuing 20 minutes before opening (08.00) and is usually back indoors by 08.30. No hot sun at that time in the morning. So as that old saying goes 'The early bird catches the worms'