Me and My Family
Sep 28th 2021, 1:05 pm
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Fee is the same as I paid but if you can get away with a $1,500 deposit, that sounds really good, I had to pay $20,000 but my annual fee is $10 and I believe new applicants have to pay $360 a year.
Sep 28th 2021, 3:05 pm
#5807
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However do remember where you are.... you can talk to them but its not guaranteed that you will get the " correct " information. ....
Do not accept the first answer as The Answer to your question and do look for information on all the various expat boards. Research will be your friend and guide And have fun getting the Police clearance from UK which has to be apostilled before Philippines Embassy in UK will accept it....Been there and done that.
Do not accept the first answer as The Answer to your question and do look for information on all the various expat boards. Research will be your friend and guide And have fun getting the Police clearance from UK which has to be apostilled before Philippines Embassy in UK will accept it....Been there and done that.
'In order to qualify under the Expanded Courtesy scheme, with required deposit under PRA of US$1,500.00, you need to be a Retired/Service Military personnel (country with diplomatic ties with the Philippine Government eg. US, British, Australian etc), 50 years old and above, (not necessary stationed or served Philippines) with the following documents – over and above the regular requirements:
1. DD Form- 214 or Honorable Discharge Certificate from the Military Service;
2. Proof of Pension or Certificate of not less than US$1,000.00 monthly (SSS or other organization)
3. Police Check/FBI or certificate of no criminal conviction (if stay in the Philippines less than 1 year) or Barangay Certificate (if stay in the Philippines 5 years and up)’
In follow up correspondence, the PRA stated that the items had to be ‘apostilised’. However, accordingly to item 3, you should be spared the Police Check from UK based on your length of stay in the Philippines. I trust P11 maintained good relations with his Barangay Captain! Finally, as highlighted by Freebie, getting the relevant PRA rep to confirm these points and in a timely and straight forward manner is another matter. Good luck!
Sep 29th 2021, 6:04 am
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Below in italics, is a copy of PRA correspondence on the subject, which addresses some of the queries raised above:
'In order to qualify under the Expanded Courtesy scheme, with required deposit under PRA of US$1,500.00, you need to be a Retired/Service Military personnel (country with diplomatic ties with the Philippine Government eg. US, British, Australian etc), 50 years old and above, (not necessary stationed or served Philippines) with the following documents – over and above the regular requirements:
1. DD Form- 214 or Honorable Discharge Certificate from the Military Service;
2. Proof of Pension or Certificate of not less than US$1,000.00 monthly (SSS or other organization)
3. Police Check/FBI or certificate of no criminal conviction (if stay in the Philippines less than 1 year) or Barangay Certificate (if stay in the Philippines 5 years and up)’
In follow up correspondence, the PRA stated that the items had to be ‘apostilised’. However, accordingly to item 3, you should be spared the Police Check from UK based on your length of stay in the Philippines. I trust P11 maintained good relations with his Barangay Captain! Finally, as highlighted by Freebie, getting the relevant PRA rep to confirm these points and in a timely and straight forward manner is another matter. Good luck!
'In order to qualify under the Expanded Courtesy scheme, with required deposit under PRA of US$1,500.00, you need to be a Retired/Service Military personnel (country with diplomatic ties with the Philippine Government eg. US, British, Australian etc), 50 years old and above, (not necessary stationed or served Philippines) with the following documents – over and above the regular requirements:
1. DD Form- 214 or Honorable Discharge Certificate from the Military Service;
2. Proof of Pension or Certificate of not less than US$1,000.00 monthly (SSS or other organization)
3. Police Check/FBI or certificate of no criminal conviction (if stay in the Philippines less than 1 year) or Barangay Certificate (if stay in the Philippines 5 years and up)’
In follow up correspondence, the PRA stated that the items had to be ‘apostilised’. However, accordingly to item 3, you should be spared the Police Check from UK based on your length of stay in the Philippines. I trust P11 maintained good relations with his Barangay Captain! Finally, as highlighted by Freebie, getting the relevant PRA rep to confirm these points and in a timely and straight forward manner is another matter. Good luck!
Regards
Sep 29th 2021, 1:24 pm
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Re: Me and My Family
Glad Phil has extricated himself from the problems he mostly brought upon himself, and hope he learned something from it all.
The whole saga to me is very sad. Not from the point of view of Phil, but from the point of view of a lot of Filipina women. What must it be like to be born in a country where women have to live by their wits? Apparently, most young Filipinas that marry old white foreign men believe that if they try hard enough they will learn to love the man that chose them. That must be OK at first, when he is buying you food, jewels, clothing and a little spending money. He controls all the money, and doles out what he thinks you need.
This probably works for a while, especially with women that are naturally subservient, but it won’t work for all women. I don’t care where you were born, most people don’t want to be controlled, and it can get old and cause disruption in the arrangement.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Phil must be about 73 years of age now, and has already said that he has another gal on the side. People have been warning him to date these women, but do not marry them!!! This thread was an eye opener to me. The way women live and are treated in developing countries is very sad.
Not putting Phil down, as I know he was very generous with her - but how is that a relationship? An older man doling out money to a woman half his age? She went batty, and I probably would too.
The whole saga to me is very sad. Not from the point of view of Phil, but from the point of view of a lot of Filipina women. What must it be like to be born in a country where women have to live by their wits? Apparently, most young Filipinas that marry old white foreign men believe that if they try hard enough they will learn to love the man that chose them. That must be OK at first, when he is buying you food, jewels, clothing and a little spending money. He controls all the money, and doles out what he thinks you need.
This probably works for a while, especially with women that are naturally subservient, but it won’t work for all women. I don’t care where you were born, most people don’t want to be controlled, and it can get old and cause disruption in the arrangement.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Phil must be about 73 years of age now, and has already said that he has another gal on the side. People have been warning him to date these women, but do not marry them!!! This thread was an eye opener to me. The way women live and are treated in developing countries is very sad.
Not putting Phil down, as I know he was very generous with her - but how is that a relationship? An older man doling out money to a woman half his age? She went batty, and I probably would too.
Sep 29th 2021, 1:51 pm
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Glad Phil has extricated himself from the problems he mostly brought upon himself, and hope he learned something from it all.
The whole saga to me is very sad. Not from the point of view of Phil, but from the point of view of a lot of Filipina women. What must it be like to be born in a country where women have to live by their wits? Apparently, most young Filipinas that marry old white foreign men believe that if they try hard enough they will learn to love the man that chose them. That must be OK at first, when he is buying you food, jewels, clothing and a little spending money. He controls all the money, and doles out what he thinks you need.
This probably works for a while, especially with women that are naturally subservient, but it won’t work for all women. I don’t care where you were born, most people don’t want to be controlled, and it can get old and cause disruption in the arrangement.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Phil must be about 73 years of age now, and has already said that he has another gal on the side. People have been warning him to date these women, but do not marry them!!! This thread was an eye opener to me. The way women live and are treated in developing countries is very sad.
Not putting Phil down, as I know he was very generous with her - but how is that a relationship? An older man doling out money to a woman half his age? She went batty, and I probably would too.
The whole saga to me is very sad. Not from the point of view of Phil, but from the point of view of a lot of Filipina women. What must it be like to be born in a country where women have to live by their wits? Apparently, most young Filipinas that marry old white foreign men believe that if they try hard enough they will learn to love the man that chose them. That must be OK at first, when he is buying you food, jewels, clothing and a little spending money. He controls all the money, and doles out what he thinks you need.
This probably works for a while, especially with women that are naturally subservient, but it won’t work for all women. I don’t care where you were born, most people don’t want to be controlled, and it can get old and cause disruption in the arrangement.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Phil must be about 73 years of age now, and has already said that he has another gal on the side. People have been warning him to date these women, but do not marry them!!! This thread was an eye opener to me. The way women live and are treated in developing countries is very sad.
Not putting Phil down, as I know he was very generous with her - but how is that a relationship? An older man doling out money to a woman half his age? She went batty, and I probably would too.
Sep 29th 2021, 2:23 pm
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What exactly did you think she was attracted too? I am sorry but the saying holds true for most relationships where one is elderly and the other is young.
“What does she see in the rich, old man?”
OK you may not be rich by western standards…but you get my drift…
Sep 29th 2021, 2:32 pm
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Do you live in the Philippines? If so you would have seen many happily married women living with the older man. WW was 34 when I met her. A mature woman..Try again...
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Sep 29th 2021, 3:09 pm
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Sep 29th 2021, 3:20 pm
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She may have been 34 but there was still a enormous age difference. You can deny it all you like, but almost everyone on here could see that she used you for money. Yes you may have been blissfully happy for a while, but it was bound to end this way. I think you are a really nice guy who has been used by a much younger woman.
Sep 29th 2021, 4:01 pm
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The whole saga to me is very sad. Not from the point of view of Phil, but from the point of view of a lot of Filipina women. What must it be like to be born in a country where women have to live by their wits? Apparently, most young Filipinas that marry old white foreign men believe that if they try hard enough they will learn to love the man that chose them. That must be OK at first, when he is buying you food, jewels, clothing and a little spending money. He controls all the money, and doles out what he thinks you need.
Fathers and society have always dictated how a woman should live and who she should marry. And, yes, money and status was always the reason for Daddy's choice of a son-in-law.
This probably works for a while, especially with women that are naturally subservient, but it won’t work for all women. I don’t care where you were born, most people don’t want to be controlled, and it can get old and cause disruption in the arrangement.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Thinking about this thread, most of the comments on Filipina women are from men. Most of the comments are put downs against Filipina women. How difficult it must be to have to throw your life away in order to have some nice things. It makes me very sad in this day and age that women are living like this.
Phil must be about 73 years of age now, and has already said that he has another gal on the side. People have been warning him to date these women, but do not marry them!!! This thread was an eye opener to me. The way women live and are treated in developing countries is very sad.
Sep 29th 2021, 4:54 pm
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Aren't the majority of our personal problems, problems that we brought on ourselves.
This is how women have lived for hundreds of years. It is only in the last century that women in first world countries have had the freedom to chose their own way of living and chose their own lifetime partners.
Fathers and society have always dictated how a woman should live and who she should marry. And, yes, money and status was always the reason for Daddy's choice of a son-in-law.
Yes, it is sad that some countries, cultures and economics are still a century behind our standards today. Woman have always been subservient to their husbands and fathers and social mores. India, for example, still practices arranged marriages. That young woman has no say in the choice of a husband.
Good for him. I'm 73 also and if I were single I would be looking for a companion or love interest and I'd be honest and say upfront that his economic status would have a bearing on our relationship. So does that make me as as mercenary as a Filipina?
This is how women have lived for hundreds of years. It is only in the last century that women in first world countries have had the freedom to chose their own way of living and chose their own lifetime partners.
Fathers and society have always dictated how a woman should live and who she should marry. And, yes, money and status was always the reason for Daddy's choice of a son-in-law.
Yes, it is sad that some countries, cultures and economics are still a century behind our standards today. Woman have always been subservient to their husbands and fathers and social mores. India, for example, still practices arranged marriages. That young woman has no say in the choice of a husband.
Good for him. I'm 73 also and if I were single I would be looking for a companion or love interest and I'd be honest and say upfront that his economic status would have a bearing on our relationship. So does that make me as as mercenary as a Filipina?
I very occasionally read this thread---it has been going on so long---out of curiosity---no idea why I did today!
But I must correct your view of "arranged marriages in India" . You are thinking of illegal 'forced' marriage. An arrangement is more of a marriage bureau/introduction type system. Traditionally started by the girls female relatives get together in a kitchen and discuss 'where the boys are? and their family type), meetings are arranged and it proceeds or doesn't according to the pair. I have know mothers begging girls to go and choose their own after so many turn downs! Certainly in ultra-wealthy families there is sometimes more 'persuasion' for money purposes!
Sep 29th 2021, 5:05 pm
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Sep 29th 2021, 5:07 pm
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Sep 29th 2021, 11:03 pm
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They would draw the line at a larger family and if the number of kids is lied about then there can be trouble.