HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
#16
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
I'm not sure the track nights are a good idea because that encourages the thrill-seeking behaviour. Maybe the problem is the lack of real motorways here...even I confess to slightly missing ever being able to drive over 50kms most of the time.
Called in at the dairy on the way home from school and some idiot/hoon or whatever with a souped up engine accelerated noisily and dangerously along the road and made my kids jump out of their skin....that's how not to drive I said. I never see any police in Wellington...if they hung around incognito on a few street corners they'd be able to up their stats in no time..assuming they could keep up that is.
#17
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Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
Too true, we never see many police around Auckland either. I wonder where they all are? The only time I have ever seen any police presence in over three years, is the occasional traffic squad car parked up somewhere along the motorway and everyone knows when they are as you get the general idea from the cars flashing their headlights from the opposite direction. Meanwhile the kids are wreaking havoc, racing and doing donuts on the 'quieter' traffic free roads and car parks.
#19
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
Raising the driving age and compulsory insurance is the obvious one I agree but it won't stop someone getting drunk and driving without insurance. So when someone does do that you would hope the penalties would be severe such as disqualified from driving for x years.
I'm not sure the track nights are a good idea because that encourages the thrill-seeking behaviour. Maybe the problem is the lack of real motorways here...even I confess to slightly missing ever being able to drive over 50kms most of the time.
Called in at the dairy on the way home from school and some idiot/hoon or whatever with a souped up engine accelerated noisily and dangerously along the road and made my kids jump out of their skin....that's how not to drive I said. I never see any police in Wellington...if they hung around incognito on a few street corners they'd be able to up their stats in no time..assuming they could keep up that is.
I'm not sure the track nights are a good idea because that encourages the thrill-seeking behaviour. Maybe the problem is the lack of real motorways here...even I confess to slightly missing ever being able to drive over 50kms most of the time.
Called in at the dairy on the way home from school and some idiot/hoon or whatever with a souped up engine accelerated noisily and dangerously along the road and made my kids jump out of their skin....that's how not to drive I said. I never see any police in Wellington...if they hung around incognito on a few street corners they'd be able to up their stats in no time..assuming they could keep up that is.
Attitude - lack of respect
It really needs attention - sadly
And yes to the fact re ZERO police
I HEAR the HOONS nearly every night and it is VERY obvious they are driving like maniacs and WAY OVER the speed limit
Every night
Nothing done
But hell, the local headlines today are - expect local rates hike up to 26% -
FOR WHAT ?
Zero delivery- pah
#20
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
Here’s something positive
Someone in a responsible position doing what they get paid to do.
I think there are some strong and important messages in here that state the fragmented government legislations need attention.
Not from people like you or I but the government
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10496653
Efforts to control driver behaviour on beaches will get nowhere until the Government moves to resolve confusing roles played by a multitude of agencies with beach jurisdiction, Far North Mayor Wayne Brown believes.
Mr Brown has written to Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta urging a national approach to the issue of idiot driving behaviour on beaches throughout the country.
He sees this as preferable to a piecemeal approach being taken by local bodies, government departments, police and agencies in different parts of NZ, including Northland, where speed-restricting bylaws are proposed for at least four high-profile, "high-conflict" beaches.
Regional councils, district councils, the Department of Conservation, police, Ministry of Transport and Land Transport NZ all have some jurisdiction on beaches, Mr Brown said, but each has different legislative roles and administrative boundaries.
"Headway needs to be made before next summer's mayhem [on beaches] begins and the government needs to take the lead role in progressing this issue," he wrote.
He did not want Far North ratepayers to have to bear the cost of jurisdictional changes to allow the introduction of speed-restricting bylaws.
He's also not convinced that imposing speed limits on beaches will bring the result communities want.
"The behaviour of those causing problems on beaches is all about stupidity rather than a lack of enforcement rules.
"I don't want to see a whole lot of new rules and regulations imposed on sensible people just to deal with a few stupid New Zealanders."
But Northland Regional Council manager of planning and policy, Glen Mortimer, said survey responses showed speed on Northland beaches was the major concern of beach users.
Legal advice to the regional council was that control of beaches rested with the Crown, under the Foreshore and Seabed Act, and speed limits could be introduced by the Crown, Mr Mortimer said.
"We hope to have a clear direction on this from the Crown by next month," he said.
Someone in a responsible position doing what they get paid to do.
I think there are some strong and important messages in here that state the fragmented government legislations need attention.
Not from people like you or I but the government
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10496653
Efforts to control driver behaviour on beaches will get nowhere until the Government moves to resolve confusing roles played by a multitude of agencies with beach jurisdiction, Far North Mayor Wayne Brown believes.
Mr Brown has written to Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta urging a national approach to the issue of idiot driving behaviour on beaches throughout the country.
He sees this as preferable to a piecemeal approach being taken by local bodies, government departments, police and agencies in different parts of NZ, including Northland, where speed-restricting bylaws are proposed for at least four high-profile, "high-conflict" beaches.
Regional councils, district councils, the Department of Conservation, police, Ministry of Transport and Land Transport NZ all have some jurisdiction on beaches, Mr Brown said, but each has different legislative roles and administrative boundaries.
"Headway needs to be made before next summer's mayhem [on beaches] begins and the government needs to take the lead role in progressing this issue," he wrote.
He did not want Far North ratepayers to have to bear the cost of jurisdictional changes to allow the introduction of speed-restricting bylaws.
He's also not convinced that imposing speed limits on beaches will bring the result communities want.
"The behaviour of those causing problems on beaches is all about stupidity rather than a lack of enforcement rules.
"I don't want to see a whole lot of new rules and regulations imposed on sensible people just to deal with a few stupid New Zealanders."
But Northland Regional Council manager of planning and policy, Glen Mortimer, said survey responses showed speed on Northland beaches was the major concern of beach users.
Legal advice to the regional council was that control of beaches rested with the Crown, under the Foreshore and Seabed Act, and speed limits could be introduced by the Crown, Mr Mortimer said.
"We hope to have a clear direction on this from the Crown by next month," he said.
#21
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
You are obviously a person with great drive and determination - well done you!
You are consistent in your approach in trying to make people aware of the problems here - always a good thing.
I can only suggest that you follow up the links given to you and try to push for change where your opinion may make a difference.
Good luck
You are consistent in your approach in trying to make people aware of the problems here - always a good thing.
I can only suggest that you follow up the links given to you and try to push for change where your opinion may make a difference.
Good luck
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#27
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Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
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#28
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
I can sympathise with you and imagine it should be pretty straight forward to understand but some folk always have to be difficult
As a mod you are here to ensure that members treat each other with respect.
There are rules that are set out by the forum that the members must adhere to
If the members misunderstand you and stray outside the boundaries the site moderators will be there pulling the members back in line
As a moderator your objective is to ensure that the rules are not broken
So ultimately you are somewhat like a police man / woman
So if you are misunderstood as a website moderator where the worst that can happen is a FULL CAPS text barney with maybe a few naughty words in between.
In my opinion the BE site has a really good moderator ( policing ) presence to keep things running the way they want
Can you imagine where they are real life threatening rules and having to enforce these
Have a great Monday
As a mod you are here to ensure that members treat each other with respect.
There are rules that are set out by the forum that the members must adhere to
If the members misunderstand you and stray outside the boundaries the site moderators will be there pulling the members back in line
As a moderator your objective is to ensure that the rules are not broken
So ultimately you are somewhat like a police man / woman
So if you are misunderstood as a website moderator where the worst that can happen is a FULL CAPS text barney with maybe a few naughty words in between.
In my opinion the BE site has a really good moderator ( policing ) presence to keep things running the way they want
Can you imagine where they are real life threatening rules and having to enforce these
Have a great Monday
#29
Re: HOW MUCH MORE BEFORE ACTION
Well I think there are two problems in NZ that are totally out of hand - ridiculously noisy cars, and dangerous driving.
It scares me to have my wife and kids out on the streets with these idiots around. Stronger legislation is obviously needed, but this has to be backed up with actions for lawbreakers. The guy who killed 2 people whilst driving/texting/drunk was this week given a very mild rebuke, not even prison for 1 day.
As for the noisy cars, can someone please tell what the point of these modified cars is, do kiwis have such small appendages that making a frightful racket as they whizz down the street makes them feel bigger? Says a lot for their mentality and the lifestyle choices on offer in NZ.
As for even driving cars on beaches, ahem, yes thats very clean and green isnt it?
Oh and by the way, I got a speeding ticket for doing 116kph on a clear 4 -lane dual carriageway in broad daylight this week. But then of course I register my car, so I can be traced and will actually pay my fine, so its easy for the cops. Hundreds of late night hoons together and the police do sod all.
Tremendous.
It scares me to have my wife and kids out on the streets with these idiots around. Stronger legislation is obviously needed, but this has to be backed up with actions for lawbreakers. The guy who killed 2 people whilst driving/texting/drunk was this week given a very mild rebuke, not even prison for 1 day.
As for the noisy cars, can someone please tell what the point of these modified cars is, do kiwis have such small appendages that making a frightful racket as they whizz down the street makes them feel bigger? Says a lot for their mentality and the lifestyle choices on offer in NZ.
As for even driving cars on beaches, ahem, yes thats very clean and green isnt it?
Oh and by the way, I got a speeding ticket for doing 116kph on a clear 4 -lane dual carriageway in broad daylight this week. But then of course I register my car, so I can be traced and will actually pay my fine, so its easy for the cops. Hundreds of late night hoons together and the police do sod all.
Tremendous.
#30
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Care to introduce yourself?
Where is this 4 lane dual carriageway anyhow.
Not that I don't agree with the views on NZ driving standards 'n all but to just plough straight on in without so much as a Hi and Bye is a bit on the unusual side shall we say. Had a few of those of late. HHmm .
Welcome to BE and hope you find the time to post all sorts of help, advice and support to the site.
Where is this 4 lane dual carriageway anyhow.
Not that I don't agree with the views on NZ driving standards 'n all but to just plough straight on in without so much as a Hi and Bye is a bit on the unusual side shall we say. Had a few of those of late. HHmm .
Welcome to BE and hope you find the time to post all sorts of help, advice and support to the site.