LegalEagleTX

Will the fish and chip shop lady follow the science? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

Timmy Chch

5 more dates released which covers everyone entering nz. But once again they are only provisional and likely to move again come feb 20th on 'check in day.' So no one can book flights with certainty, I appreciate it's an ever changing beast but provisional dates dont help

Charismatic

Looks like they will wait a bit longer to start reopening: https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/polit...ff-understands

Five stages though, more stages = more better?

Clareuk

Agree nice start.. but can be taken back at any time it is frustrating

Timmy Chch

To be fair we were going off the stuff link below and in her press conference I dont think Cindy spoke about a check in date so that should be the certainty that people are after to be able to book flights. Wouldn't bet on it though!

Charismatic

Perhaps third time's a charm on reopening announcements.

Airlines will need to know well in advance so that they can pull jets out of storage, get crews up to speed etc. That'll take them a few weeks, even without Omicron interference.

Beoz

Non citizens July. Citizens end of Feb then have to home quarrentine. Is this serious? I guess when you only have 200 ICU beds these dates are just plucked out of the air. 2 years to get the hospital system sorted and nothing. Unreal.

jarv5116

I can't see the borders opening up till the end of the year spring summertime.
me personally come July time (winter) they will have a bit of a wave which has happened all over Europe the past 3 winters.
health system will crumble and put back again till the summer 2022.
I can't see them opening up to the world in the middle of NZ winter.

Charismatic

There isn't much government can do about case numbers, within eight weeks cases will peak within New Zealand. Subsequently keeping borders closed or imposing self-isolation will be arbitrary because cases will likely be higher in New Zealand than the countries people are travelling from.

jarv5116

course there will
Its been delayed now because of omircon no other reason. why didnt the borders open up at 85% fully vaccinated which was the goal and promised. Now goal posts changed because of omircon.
What about when papajohn variant kicks off in a few months time that spreads like a fire in the bush in auz summer and more deadly?
Its going happen.

They were in a perfect postion with high vax rates before Xmas with the summer to get into the swing and instead pi##ed around waiting for winter time.

Clareuk

So I wonder if it’s safe to book tickets from UK to NZ for say mid March
or will she change her mind ? What’s everyone’s thoughts

Charismatic

Heads or tails?

I'm not sure if I'd book a holiday in March just because, as it stands, a lot of businesses and people are likely to be closed because staff are isolating. Usually it takes 6 to 8 weeks for the wave to pass.
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Beoz

More progressive countries don't isolate close contacts any more. This approach is so damaging on so many levels.

Charismatic

The minister responsible alluded to that eventuality today.
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Justcol

A few weeks ago we were told the number of cases would be doubling on an almost daily basis, and modelers were estimating a 1000 cases a day by the beginning of February which would have seen us hovering around the 6 to 8k a day today.
seems the scaremongering has frightened off the virus itself and try and as it might, numbers have struggled to surpass the daily count of stubbed toe's