Devils advocate....??
Apr 27th 2009, 7:57 pm
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Re: Devils advocate....??
To the OP - best of luck, your figures look realistic and I love your attitude. We often holiday near Whangarei because it is a beautiful area with good beaches and places to sail. If you want to be out of town, have a look at Ngunguru but my concern would be your kids would feel cut off. You'd probably be better in suburbia. As Laura said, there are loads of good rentals in your price bracket - trademe has a good selection.
As long as you don't mind your winters being like a SW England mediocre summer, you'll be fine!
As long as you don't mind your winters being like a SW England mediocre summer, you'll be fine!
Apr 27th 2009, 8:12 pm
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Too true, no more bureaucrats need apply, all government departments have capped recruitment as it was at December 08 and for that reason alone there won't be any new jobs created or many vacancies coming up, as nobody is going to leave a cushy Government job (unless asked to do so) in this economic climate.
Cons gov comes in spending gets capped
Apr 27th 2009, 8:49 pm
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Can you say that with a straight face?Just as well New Zealand doesn't come under any kind of consumer guarantee or trades description Act for concealment of the truth.
Caveat emptor!
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Apr 27th 2009, 8:52 pm
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17 grand is a good amount, don't get me wrong we travelled with 900 quid but that was back in 97 and we were young and stupid..
The big thing is balancing the budget, earm more than you spend and its all going well, spend more than you earn then its all down hill and a very fine line between the two...
My guess after rental costs your big expenses will be food and transport.
Rental should be estimatable from trademe, food costs less yes but not a huge amount less. Transport well public transport can be terrible (however is imoroving thank god) so you will be in your car more and burning petrol.. again petrol is cheaper but income % still hurts..
Wage pressure is downwards at the moment...
So its an estimate the above be very realistic and then put a 10% factor on top.
My gut feel is some months you'll break even some months not, foriegn holidays will be a no, saving up for the unexpected and the expected, teeth / uni will be hard.
The big thing is balancing the budget, earm more than you spend and its all going well, spend more than you earn then its all down hill and a very fine line between the two...
My guess after rental costs your big expenses will be food and transport.
Rental should be estimatable from trademe, food costs less yes but not a huge amount less. Transport well public transport can be terrible (however is imoroving thank god) so you will be in your car more and burning petrol.. again petrol is cheaper but income % still hurts..
Wage pressure is downwards at the moment...
So its an estimate the above be very realistic and then put a 10% factor on top.
My gut feel is some months you'll break even some months not, foriegn holidays will be a no, saving up for the unexpected and the expected, teeth / uni will be hard.
Apr 27th 2009, 9:17 pm
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Re: Devils advocate....??
for Northland that's about right. Perhaps a little cooler but very mild all the same
Apr 27th 2009, 9:38 pm
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Thanks again you guys...
We are not expecting it to be a breeze, far from it, but we expect that we could have a similar standard of living that we have here, difference being that both of us will work there and only one works here, that aside, we are coming for the way of life... currently the hubby works as a plant operator and works far too much overtime for either of our liking.... its not a choice either
and he works every weekend too... we are hoping that with the more relaxed attitude toward work over there, he may get at least every other if not all weekends off 
Why Whangarei........?? Why not?? It looks like a beautiful place.... its only a two hour drive to Auckland if we absolutely need the big smoke for anything.... its got the gorgeous beaches, and the subtropical climate (including a very wet weatherfront at the moment I am told
)... whats not to love?? Its got everything we could possibly need and more. Although we have been told by some that its quite a poor area in comparison to the rest of NZ, but then again everyone that I have spoken to who lives there, absolutely loves the place... everyone has their own ideal and Whangarei just happens to tick our boxes 
We are not expecting it to be a breeze, far from it, but we expect that we could have a similar standard of living that we have here, difference being that both of us will work there and only one works here, that aside, we are coming for the way of life... currently the hubby works as a plant operator and works far too much overtime for either of our liking.... its not a choice either
and he works every weekend too... we are hoping that with the more relaxed attitude toward work over there, he may get at least every other if not all weekends off Why Whangarei........?? Why not?? It looks like a beautiful place.... its only a two hour drive to Auckland if we absolutely need the big smoke for anything.... its got the gorgeous beaches, and the subtropical climate (including a very wet weatherfront at the moment I am told
)... whats not to love?? Its got everything we could possibly need and more. Although we have been told by some that its quite a poor area in comparison to the rest of NZ, but then again everyone that I have spoken to who lives there, absolutely loves the place... everyone has their own ideal and Whangarei just happens to tick our boxes
Apr 27th 2009, 9:47 pm
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Too true, no more bureaucrats need apply, all government departments have capped recruitment as it was at December 08 and for that reason alone there won't be any new jobs created or many vacancies coming up, as nobody is going to leave a cushy Government job (unless asked to do so) in this economic climate.
Or even better post something to back up your statement
Apr 27th 2009, 10:32 pm
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Here's a photo taken on a beach near Whangarei at ten to five in the afternoon late in May (that's the equivalent of late Nov for the UK). Not always like this though, but if you're going to be living on a budget, why not do it somewhere nice?
Apr 28th 2009, 12:38 am
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Whilst we're talking of lies, I suggest people saying the weather in Whangarei in winter is equivalent to summer in the UK should check the facts, since that it is indeed stretching the truth beyond the reasonable realms of yeah right, whatevvar, bullshit!!
At least 300 jobs in the public service will be shed this year under the Government's plans to cap bureaucracy.
The Government yesterday followed through on its election pledge to cap the size of the core state sector, announcing that no more than 38,859 full-time equivalent positions would be funded over the next three years.
The cap is a snapshot of positions either filled or advertised in the public service as of December 31 last year.
The lid, which is effective immediately, applies to the whole bureaucracy, rather than individual departments, meaning staff numbers can fluctuate within departments where necessary.
It will be the job of the State Services Commission to ensure the total number does not breach the cap.
The Government yesterday followed through on its election pledge to cap the size of the core state sector, announcing that no more than 38,859 full-time equivalent positions would be funded over the next three years.
The cap is a snapshot of positions either filled or advertised in the public service as of December 31 last year.
The lid, which is effective immediately, applies to the whole bureaucracy, rather than individual departments, meaning staff numbers can fluctuate within departments where necessary.
It will be the job of the State Services Commission to ensure the total number does not breach the cap.
Apr 28th 2009, 3:00 am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whangarei#Climate
vs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol#Climate
Still a lot better in Whangarei by any measure, apart from amount of rain, but even then the rain is torrential rather than drizzle so you see a lot more blue skies which is good.
vs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol#Climate
Still a lot better in Whangarei by any measure, apart from amount of rain, but even then the rain is torrential rather than drizzle so you see a lot more blue skies which is good.
Apr 28th 2009, 5:00 am
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It's good that you'll be able to rent a three-bedroomed house in Whangarei for 200 to 300 a week. When we lived up North a few years ago we paid $150 for a two-roomed place.
Why Whangarei (or Fungaray as the folks say up there)? You're a good bit away from Auckland there and the road down is not the best of places for driving. But it has plenty of restaurants and pubs. And, the back-roads north and south are really pleasant places to drive in.
Why Whangarei (or Fungaray as the folks say up there)? You're a good bit away from Auckland there and the road down is not the best of places for driving. But it has plenty of restaurants and pubs. And, the back-roads north and south are really pleasant places to drive in.
Apr 28th 2009, 5:15 am
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my word Karen you seem to have created a debate, from what i can see your gonna be a bit skint but who isnt but what a nice place to be skint in
beats the crap out of the UK
Neil
beats the crap out of the UK
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Apr 28th 2009, 7:06 am
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Yes, I'll admit to exaggerating to make a point. I'd say a Whangarei winter is like a Devon Spring - quite wet and unpredictable but never that cold and with some really nice days when you can get down to the beach
Apr 28th 2009, 7:48 am
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It's definitely pretty wet at times over winter, last year was shocking, but previous years have been lovely, lots of blue skies and days at the beach. Beach days for us are nicer in the winter months as all the holiday makers are gone 
We've had about one frost and we live in a valley.
Northland is a gorgeous place to live and very under-rated by some people who have never lived here! When we told a friends uncle, a kiwi who lives in Hamilton, that we were planning to move here he was well set against it - he said why? It's run down and very poor.
Thank goodness we didn't listen to him! Turns out he'd never lived here and had only visited 15 years ago!
We've had about one frost and we live in a valley.
Northland is a gorgeous place to live and very under-rated by some people who have never lived here! When we told a friends uncle, a kiwi who lives in Hamilton, that we were planning to move here he was well set against it - he said why? It's run down and very poor.
Thank goodness we didn't listen to him! Turns out he'd never lived here and had only visited 15 years ago!
Apr 28th 2009, 8:36 am
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It's easy enough to find these things out for yourself, keep up with the news and facts, rather than inferring what I say is lies.
Whilst we're talking of lies, I suggest people saying the weather in Whangarei in winter is equivalent to summer in the UK should check the facts, since that it is indeed stretching the truth beyond the reasonable realms of yeah right, whatevvar, bullshit!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...s-to-lose-jobs
Whilst we're talking of lies, I suggest people saying the weather in Whangarei in winter is equivalent to summer in the UK should check the facts, since that it is indeed stretching the truth beyond the reasonable realms of yeah right, whatevvar, bullshit!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...s-to-lose-jobs
