Olivia_Brown

Coronavirus......Such a common topic to discuss these days, right?
Oh God! Is there any chance of ever getting freedom from the covid-19 risk?

Bo-Jangles

As a Research Analyst you probably should be aware that we have vaccinations that will provide freedom from covid-19 risks, just a shame we haven't developed vaccines that protect us from spam but I guess we have all learned to live with that, as it is now endemic.

Charismatic

We'll, this is awkward, in bingo you don't get the same number twice but it's the same again today.

BEVS

I appreciate the 1pm podium updates from the assorted figures. I can choose to tune in or not depending . No-one is welding my eyes to the screen or gluing my ears to the sound.
At least I can hear direct rather than having to read or listen to newshub or newstalk & the like.

This tail is long sadly. I do feel for all those in the Auckland area .

Charismatic

I don't mind if people are anti-vaccination. Just unvaccinated adults should have the decency to stay at home if they are dieing of Covid-19 and not hog hospital beds. What I don't want are loads of stories about people who shunned the vaccine overloading the health system.

I apologise if that sounds hard nosed but every choice has a set of potential consequences. Death is a very serious consequence, they choose if they accept that risk.

BEVS

Yup matey. Yup.

Olivia_Brown

There is a difference between learned to live with that and having to learn living with that. In my case, its the second one. I lost my dear ones in this pandemic last year and even in this year that its just too hard for me to consider it an endemic and live with that forever. As a research analyst, I know vaccinations are available but vaccinated people are still getting affected due to their careless and reckless behaviors.

BEVS

Why are you posting to the New Zealand thread rather than to the Oz threads of which there are a fair few.

chocolate cake

Yeah, that is awkward, sounds like someone made a mistake yesterday and put the number back in the bag!

Elsewhere at the podium more of the same (sorry to plagiarise Greta Thunberg response):-
- zero cases, blah, blah, blah
- eradication, blah, blah, blah
- 90% vaccine rate, blah, blah, blah
- covid 19 toolkit, blah, blah, blah

Mishclark

Absolutely

LittleGreyCat

From the UK, the vaccination doesn't prevent you from catching or transmitting Covid variants, but does vastly improve your chances of survival, and generally results in minor or no symptoms.

The asymptomatic bit makes it very difficult to track who might be infected, though.

jarv5116

Its nothing todo with behaviours or reckless.
If a vaccine isn't a 100% full proof. more like 60-70% after 3 months of the 2nd vaccine depending on the make of the vaccine. even with 100% vaccine rate your still going to have 1ks of cases but they will all be vaccinated people as the pop is 100% vaccinated.
The thing is it reduces your chances of becoming seriously sick and dieing from the virus and reducing the overall spread of the virus and keeping that magic R number down.

Bo-Jangles

Fortunately in the case of the latter, when endemic, the defences are heightened and we learn to spot those that display the symptoms even when they try very hard to hide it.

chocolate cake

Indeed, the vaccinated having mild/asymptomatic Covid and still being able to pass it on has been known for ages, makes the vaccine stroll out here so much exasperating.

These ‘world leading’ vaccination rates here in early September here should have been months earlier.

Meanwhile today’s gateway to heaven #27

BEVS

Hopefully the UK track and trace has been much improved and people are doing this everywhere they go still.

As was informed from the NZ podiums you so dislike. Hence the push for track and trace which everyone in NZ should have been doing diligently.