SDER

Still......I even loved Perth & Darwin!!!!

SDER

Well, I can fully understand that. I live in San Diego, California. Its also a tourist town with all the attractions, beaches and great weather. But once you start working there, living there and getting to know the people, Oh and deal with the traffic, you see a different side to it. The holiday mode is completely turned off. I guess when looking for a place to live you have to look at it with a side to how it would be like to live there as a resident and not a tourist. I must say though, give me a VB in OZ and I will be happy!

wombat42

Australia is'nt 90% desert, Look at the eastern states where most of the population lives TAS, VIC, NSW and QLD most of it is nice green countryside.
As for the heat wearing you out, its not hot all the time, except in the far north of the country where very few people live, such as Darwin. Where most of the population lives the weather only gets hot during 3 months during summer and where l live l would only describe `10-15 days this summer as being hot, most summer days have been between 20-30 degrees. During winter it gets very cold in OZ and snows in many parts of VIC and NSW.
Go to Melbourne on a typical winter day, 4-12 degees pouring down raining, snowing in the Dandelong hills and tell me if you think its hot in Oz all the time.

wombat42

Where abouts in OZ do you live?
You live in a secured apartment , surrounded by drunk Aboriginies and drug addicts, the only place that sounds like is Redfern in Sydney, why would you choose to live in such a rough area, why don't you move. You also say its Hot 7 months of the year. The only places in OZ where it is hot 7 months a year are up in the far north, Darwin, Cairns etc.

wombat42

Actually l might join you and move to the Uk where there are no arrogant, pretentious, materialistic, unfriendly people or anyone that takes advantage of other people , sounds like paradise.

ScousePete

Sounds like my first marriage

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you tell them Wombat, its all about what you make of it, and where you go..

people have to think about it, and not just jump in to a city..there are a lot of factors to weigh up.

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Simone

Geez, I agree with Wombat for once!

THere's a lot of exageration going on in here!
7 months to hot! Ha, do you think 25 is hot already??
90% desert, yeah right. And 90% of the people (actually, probably 98%) don't live in the desert!

Neverland, choose a different suburb, or even street! Not all suburbs close to any CBD are like that!
But, anyway, you've got enough reasons to leave (no family, can't find work, can't make good friends), you don't need to drag in reasons that are not Australia's problem!


To answer the OP's question. There's plenty wrong with Australia, no country is perfect, or even comes close!
I still think the main reasons for leaving are to do with homesickness and family, and 'difficulties' with moving(getting new job, new friends), and not necessarily the country itself(ie, it could happen in most countries you can immigrate too).
Please all note I said MAIN reasons, not all reasons!!!


I think Australia's main 'problems' (aren't necessarily problems for everyone), are isolation(distance to other countries(mainly europe), and the small population(which leads to less job oppertunities in a few area's, and all sorts of econmic/market stuff, can't explain properly...)!

neverland

I wish I knew what your problem is. I gave a description of what my life was like and what it is like here. I did not give any reasons to leave. What I listed is the reality of my life here. And not once did I exaggerate. And yes, in Darwin and in Perth it is 7 months too hot. Guess what, in Darwin the thermometer hardly goes below 25 degrees (even at night). And guess what: it is a fact, that Australia is the second driest continent on earth. And guess what: moving to a different suburb would solve no problems because I already leave in the suburb with the least crime. Far out, you are not in my shoes. Who are you to comment on what things are like here (not even knowing where exactly I live in Australia).

Simone

Ok, so I did judge a bit.
Right, so you live in Darwin. But why not say you are talking about Darwin? Not all Australian cities are like that(and I still don't think Darwin is that bad, but obviously is for you).

Your comments were about living in AUSTRALIA. Not all Australia is like that. You could move to a better area in Australia. But you chose not to. Which is not Australia's fault. It is (partly anyway) Darwin's fault.

Then my comments were also aimed at Kiwichild, who agreed with you. I know she lives in Perth.


I know Australia is a very dry continent, what has that got to do with this discussion?

Perth 7 months to hot? I would say warm, yes, hot, no! Geez, what is hot to you, over 20?
Perth is hot(over 35 for me...) for a FEW days in December and january, and usually a few more in February. This year also hot for a few days in March. February this year was mostly around 27!
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averag...w_009225.shtml
Mean daily max dec: 29.1
Mean jan: 30.7
mean feb: 31.3
mean march: 29.2

Darwin is quite different:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averag...w_014016.shtml
Too hot for me too.

wombat42

Darwin is hot or warm most of the year but not Perth, although in Perth does get quite a few hot days during summer , most summer days are under 30 degrees,The rest of the year it is a pleasant 15-25 degrees in Perth mostly, for example it is 21 degrees in Perth today.
It is only hot or warm all year round up it the far north of OZ, the tropics, in places like Darwin and Townsville, but only a small percentage of the population lives up there.

neverland

Simone, I don't know where I said that I live in Darwin? I might be living in Cairns, Kununurra, Broome or God knows where up north. I took Darwin as an example.

The fact is, that you could be living like I do in Australia or you could be living like Wombat does. It is all part of life in Australia. And you know I have been to every Australian city at least 5-6 times. I am not interested in moving into a city with Mio. of people. I don't like rat race and I don't like commuting. Unfortunately, Australia does not have much to offer when it comes to small towns. That is my personal opinion. I find people in small towns here very narrow-minded. A lot more narrow-minded than people in small towns in Europe. Maybe that is because Australia is isolated and most of this people have never left their small town.

I find dry boring (others don't). I find dry flat bush country extremely boring. Having visited about 50 countries and having lived in half a dozen I am probably spoilt when it comes to scenery. Sorry.

Simone

This post is very different to your original post.

All I'm trying to say is that not all of Australia is hot, not all of Australia is dry and brown(take Tasmania as just one example!!). Not ALL people are narrow mindend. etc etc.

I guess I don't like generalisations(though I'm sure I generalise plenty myself too).

Btw, please see also my edited first post (I added some stuff shortly after)



Good luck (in Dubai?)

neverland

I was not trying to generalize. I was just giving a very realistic picture of my own life in Australia. Anyway, as far as our next destination goes: we are still tossing. For me the the fact that I cannot travel overseas anymore is the worst and second is: not connecting with the people. I don't think that that is my fault or the fault of the Australians, it just does not click. Period. You can't click with everybody. I clicked perfectly in other countries but not here. No country is perfect. Take Dubai: still isolated (not as bad as Australia though), still dry boring land around it, but a lot less crime than here, closer to Europe, better job opps etc. You have to decide yourself what you can least live with. Thanks for your wishes. We are not quite decided yet where we off to next.

Simone

And I believe you.
But it did happen(and always does, you are not the only one or anything! ) and I guess that was 'my problem' (I notice a pattern with me sticking up for the underdog....mmmm).

Just to make it clear, I don't have any problem with you not liking your situation(it is not very nice!!!!) and I also do not think Aus is the best country ever etc etc etc.

As I said, good luck with your desicions, it's not easy, and never will be!

Btw, still curious to where you live? In another thread you mention Adelaide, but that doesn't seem to fit the profile you describe(crime, heat etc) (and I'm not saying Adelaide is crime free or not hot!! )