The Real NHS

Old Sep 27th 2012, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by holly2234 View Post

I have had 90% positive experiences with staff members too. It is not their fault, there simply seems to be too many people and not enough money.
This!!!!!


So sorry to read about your poor maternity service


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Old Sep 27th 2012, 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by LA2JHB View Post
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Nun-sure it is "free" but you still pay taxes to support it and it is essentially dysfunctional. It is not better than the US system. I have worked in both and in terms of all clinical outcomes, the US system is far superior and at the end of the day healthcare is about clinical outcomes.

Do you have any links to robust data on this? The figures I've seen in the recent past is that outcomes are no better in the USA despite the higher health spend per head.

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Old Sep 27th 2012, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by Ozzidoc View Post
Do you have any links to robust data on this? The figures I've seen in the recent past is that outcomes are no better in the USA despite the higher health spend per head.

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Old Sep 27th 2012, 4:13 am
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Article from Newsweek.

Is it really possible that "The number of U.S. patients killed annually by medical errors is equivalent to 4 jumbo jets crashing each week." ?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-we-think.html
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser View Post
Article from Newsweek.

Is it really possible that "The number of U.S. patients killed annually by medical errors is equivalent to 4 jumbo jets crashing each week." ?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-we-think.html
People see it put in terms like that and they are shocked but in all reality medical errors or malpractice, whatever you want to call it, are far more widespread than most people realize and not just in the UK or the USA. I read that article & sorry to say it rang all too true for me. I lost my mother to medical malpractice 14 years ago and now my sister lives in fear of what her regular MRI's will tell all because they were "treated" by people who had no business practising medicine. The veil of lies, secrecy and coverups is rampant and only compounds the problem by allowing this sort of thing to go on. You can throw all the money you want at the health system but until these problems are made public and the individuals and organizations responsible are held accountable money and more importantly lives will be flushed needlessly down the drain.
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Permanently ? Woohoo.
But don't you find it boring walking around the zoo when all the cages are empty?
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But don't you find it boring walking around the zoo when all the cages are empty?
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But don't you find it boring walking around the zoo when all the cages are empty?
To an extent but when the same stupid monkey just keeps throwing his shit around it gets a bit tedious
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To an extent but when the same stupid monkey just keeps throwing his shit around it gets a bit tedious

You should be like me, have a drink or three and keep up with the meds
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There's talk of strike action at my wife's hospital, they are making redundant up to 100 admin staff and they are restructuring wards, closing beds, getting staff to reapply for their jobs, it's extremely stressful to everyone, it's been like this for the last couple of years now.
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There's talk of strike action at my wife's hospital, they are making redundant up to 100 admin staff and they are restructuring wards, closing beds, getting staff to reapply for their jobs, it's extremely stressful to everyone, it's been like this for the last couple of years now.
Just like Queensland health then....except here it is nursing staff being chopped
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Just like Queensland health then....except here it is nursing staff being chopped
I was going to say that but didnt want to make it a UK v OZ thing but you are absolutely right though. Things are not looking good in Queensland several other States.
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Just like Queensland health then....except here it is nursing staff being chopped

There's been three rounds of nursing redundancies at my wife's hospital, front line nursing numbers are at a record low, i think its UK wide, it's good advice for nurses looking at migrating, Queensland isn't the place to head at present, but there's plenty of other areas and states that nurses are sought after.
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Originally Posted by Pit Bull. View Post
There's been three rounds of nursing redundancies at my wife's hospital, front line nursing numbers are at a record low, i think its UK wide, it's good advice for nurses looking at migrating, Queensland isn't the place to head at present, but there's plenty of other areas and states that nurses are sought after.
Unfortunately it is also happening in NSW and South Australia as I understand it.
Im not sure if it UK wide, a quick search shows over 600 nursing job vacancies in the Herefordshire region. I would hazzard a guess and say there are also job vacancies all over Australia but a common misconception is that there are no jobs in this country.
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