Cheap is from Continrntal Europe.....to USA.....not UK to USA :-(

........not the airline.....from Europe.....

I never once said I was dumping them.... to assume you understand what is going on in someone else's life is pretty dumb.

Good for you to be in a position to judge.
You just don't get it, do you?

Hmm. It appears you are judging me. Pot meet kettle.

True, very true. All I know about you is from reading your posts on this forum - on this thread and on others.

Weird - that has to be a first: Switzerland cheaper than the UK and the US. A couple of posters also used KLM from Amsterdam to Houston, cheap, cheerful and everybody arrived safe and sound. We'll stick with Lufthansa via Frankfurt, I think. We'll be taking business so we should be able to manage a little legroom for the cats' cages.

Are you sure this is true? We have 2 snub nosed dogs and although it is more difficult, we've found a few places to fly them during the cooler months.
These were the airlines that I shortlisted were Finnair, air france, Lufthansa & Swiss air. Although admittedly, we looked last year so some of them may of changed since...and from the USA, I believe there is the queen mary option too (which makes me very jealous!)

Airfrance mentions snub nosed dogs on their website, but only that they should get a vet check up and approval before flying so that to me, means they can fly (although best to ring really).

Our Maltese/Shih-Tzu is a snub nosed dog and I keep reading that they should never go in cargo, but that cabin travel is alright. If you can find an airline that will allow cabin travel it would be perfect. Here's an interesting article and the writer mentions her own Frenchie. http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-exp...se-proposition
(ignore the name of the link because she goes on to say that she's referring to cargo travel not cabin)

Our snub nosed dog is the only dog I can't fathom leaving behind, but I know cabin travel would be horrible for her, so I'm not sure what to do.

the risks of flying them are to great BA Delta and american airlines have all stopped flying them, they overheat and they cant cool down - they had a spate of them dying and will no longer carry them -

there was one airline (pet transporter) would would do it for $4,500 that was to fly from US to Amsterdam to the uk, the risk is to great, she puffs and pants just going out for a walk so flying her half way around the world is not an option.
also the QE2 or whatever boat it is has only 4-6 kennels so they get booked up like a year in advance, would be nice, but again i think all the stress would be to much for her.

hmm well all I can add is that I agree the risks will be greater than with a non-snub nosed dog and not all snub nosed dogs are as bad as each other, (I've heard that British Bulldogs are at the most risk!), BUT then my logical side thinks that if it were that risky no airline would allow it at all as the continual bad press and risk wouldn't be worth it for them.

I think stories of snub nosed dogs dying during the flight are more likely to be reported than snub nosed dogs that do not die for obvious reasons. And I agree, if you have an anxious dog, it might be the stress that'll kill them rather than the heat (when flying during the winter).

I didn't know the queen mary only had 4-6 kennels, does that mean only 4--6 dogs are allowed per sailing ? No wonder it is always booked up !

The photo on the article is ridiculously cute!
Interesting article, 50% of all canine deaths are from snub nosed dogs, what I would like to know is how many snub nosed dogs die out of how many that fly...and also, what did they die from. Some of the reports I've read have been due to negligence like this story.
All pets flying into the UK have to go in cargo as far as I know...
When we eventually fly back, we'll be flying into somewhere like France or Amsterdam so they can fly as checked baggage, I've read this is safer (makes sense to me) and it is cheaper which is just a plus point.

Oh god how awful..... Now Im worrying about my Leo he's a cat but if they dont turn the air on!!!

The cargo area where pets are kept is climate controlled.

The dangerous part in terms of heat stress is more the time spent outside on the runway than during the fllight itself - but BA, for example, leave it until the last minute (in Dulles, anyway) before boarding the pets.