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Old Aug 14th 2013, 4:10 am
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Thanks for the Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and Vera info, hopefully we will see them in the New Year.

I do like Broadchurch, we see it on BBC America on Wednesday evenings.

I see Last Tango in Halifax is coming to PBS, Its a great show, I highly reccomend it, PBS has had some great shows recently, I hope it continues.
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Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
Thanks for the Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and Vera info, hopefully we will see them in the New Year.

I do like Broadchurch, we see it on BBC America on Wednesday evenings.

I see Last Tango in Halifax is coming to PBS, Its a great show, I highly reccomend it, PBS has had some great shows recently, I hope it continues.
+1 - a must see for all of you across the pond
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+1 - a must see for all of you across the pond
Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
Thanks for the Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and Vera info, hopefully we will see them in the New Year.

I do like Broadchurch, we see it on BBC America on Wednesday evenings.

I see Last Tango in Halifax is coming to PBS, Its a great show, I highly reccomend it, PBS has had some great shows recently, I hope it continues.


+1 for me too. I really enjoyed it .
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+1 - a must see for all of you across the pond
New series due out soon as well.
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New series due out soon as well.
Great!
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
What if the US house sale money goes straight into another home in UK, will I still need to do the FBAR/FACTA paperwork?
If the money comes from US and goes direct to the purchase of a UK house without touching a bank account then presumably not - but if it first goes into a foreign (non-US) bank account (even for a day) then it appears that FBAR / FATCA would be required if the amount exceeds the thresholds.
A home is not a reportable account.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f90221.pdf
Who Must File an FBAR.
A United States person that has a financial interest in or signature authority over foreign financial accounts must file an FBAR if the aggregate value of the foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year.

http://www.irs.gov/PUP/businesses/co...20Taxpayer.pdf
FATCA requires certain U.S. taxpayers who hold foreign financial assets with an aggregate value of more than the reporting threshold to report information about those assets on Form 8938, which must be attached to the taxpayer’s annual income tax return. (Taxpayers living abroad must file a Form 8938 if you must file an income tax return and married filing jointly the total value of your specified foreign financial assets is more than $400,000 on the last day of the tax year or more than $600,000 at any time during the year.) (threshold differs according to filing status, including if you live in US and hold financial accounts overseas)
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Originally Posted by J.JsOH
If the money comes from US and goes direct to the purchase of a UK house without touching a bank account then presumably not - but if it first goes into a foreign (non-US) bank account (even for a day) then it appears that FBAR / FATCA would be required if the amount exceeds the thresholds.
A home is not a reportable account.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f90221.pdf
Who Must File an FBAR.
A United States person that has a financial interest in or signature authority over foreign financial accounts must file an FBAR if the aggregate value of the foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year.

http://www.irs.gov/PUP/businesses/co...20Taxpayer.pdf
FATCA requires certain U.S. taxpayers who hold foreign financial assets with an aggregate value of more than the reporting threshold to report information about those assets on Form 8938, which must be attached to the taxpayer’s annual income tax return. (Taxpayers living abroad must file a Form 8938 if you must file an income tax return and married filing jointly the total value of your specified foreign financial assets is more than $400,000 on the last day of the tax year or more than $600,000 at any time during the year.) (threshold differs according to filing status, including if you live in US and hold financial accounts overseas)
This is very confusing to me. If my house sells soon and I take a profit of say $200000, (more than 1/2 in
original down payment) and I put it in my USA HSBC account and then transfer it to my UK HSBC a/c......are there tax ramifications??
They checked me out with tons of proof (passports, IRS up to date)when I was in NYC for my daughter's wedding in May. The bank told me I just got through by the skin of my teeth as a week later things have become much more difficult. Lucky me (for once).
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Originally Posted by Celticspirit
This is very confusing to me. If my house sells soon and I take a profit of say $200000, (more than 1/2 in
original down payment) and I put it in my USA HSBC account and then transfer it to my UK HSBC a/c......are there tax ramifications??
They checked me out with tons of proof (passports, IRS up to date)when I was in NYC for my daughter's wedding in May. The bank told me I just got through by the skin of my teeth as a week later things have become much more difficult. Lucky me (for once).
It's very confusing to me!

The IRS is so mixed up and it's not their fault.

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Mummy is Conway and Corwyn the same place?
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Originally Posted by Celticspirit
This is very confusing to me. If my house sells soon and I take a profit of say $200000, (more than 1/2 in
original down payment) and I put it in my USA HSBC account and then transfer it to my UK HSBC a/c......are there tax ramifications??
They checked me out with tons of proof (passports, IRS up to date)when I was in NYC for my daughter's wedding in May. The bank told me I just got through by the skin of my teeth as a week later things have become much more difficult. Lucky me (for once).
Breath easy. Definately NO TAX $$ or ££ involved in you moving money from US to UK.

These FBAR and FATCA are merely reports to IRS by US citizens to declare that the USC holds overseas financial accounts. (For IRS to track money laundering or tax evasion of those found with a foreign account and not reporting for income tax)

I say merely but there is a requirement to make the report and penalties if a required US person fails to report. (please read IRS documentation for "who must file" and exceptions)

FBAR Example, if someone has equaivalent $200,000 in a UK account then FBAR report is required because account is over $10,000.

FATCA example: If a unmarried individual filing USC lives outside US and has $200,000 maximum in UK account then FATCA report not required because rules are that only report if more than $200,000 at end of tax year or more than $300,000 at any time during the year.

FATCA rules depends where you live and your IRS tax filing status.
Live abroad, Married filing a joint income tax return, then threshold is more than $400,000 at end of tax year or more than $600,000 at any time during the year.
The threshold amounts are less if you live in US and have overseas accounts.

(Threshold amounts can change annually so check IRS for your year)

The reports themselves are not too bad, just all details of your foreign accounts and the need to do them fully, accurately and timely.
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Originally Posted by cheers
Mummy is Conway and Corwyn the same place?
No. Two different places.
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Originally Posted by J.JsOH
Breath easy. Definately NO TAX $$ or ££ involved in you moving money from US to UK.

These FBAR and FATCA are merely reports to IRS by US citizens to declare that the USC holds overseas financial accounts. (For IRS to track money laundering or tax evasion of those found with a foreign account and not reporting for income tax)

I say merely but there is a requirement to make the report and penalties if a required US person fails to report. (please read IRS documentation for "who must file" and exceptions)

FBAR Example, if someone has equaivalent $200,000 in a UK account then FBAR report is required because account is over $10,000.

FATCA example: If a unmarried individual filing USC lives outside US and has $200,000 maximum in UK account then FATCA report not required because rules are that only report if more than $200,000 at end of tax year or more than $300,000 at any time during the year.

FATCA rules depends where you live and your IRS tax filing status.
Live abroad, Married filing a joint income tax return, then threshold is more than $400,000 at end of tax year or more than $600,000 at any time during the year.
The threshold amounts are less if you live in US and have overseas accounts.

(Threshold amounts can change annually so check IRS for your year)

The reports themselves are not too bad, just all details of your foreign accounts and the need to do them fully, accurately and timely.
Thanks for that. So it's only the FBAR for us and chances are only this year. As new house will be bought ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
Thanks for that. So it's only the FBAR for us and chances are only this year. As new house will be bought ASAP.
Do you have a house in mind?
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We were just talking about the cottages we stayed in this summer and two were very good and two were quite bad. I wish we could give reviews on them.
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Originally Posted by J.JsOH
Breath easy. Definately NO TAX $$ or ££ involved in you moving money from US to UK.

These FBAR and FATCA are merely reports to IRS by US citizens to declare that the USC holds overseas financial accounts. (For IRS to track money laundering or tax evasion of those found with a foreign account and not reporting for income tax)

I say merely but there is a requirement to make the report and penalties if a required US person fails to report. (please read IRS documentation for "who must file" and exceptions)

FBAR Example, if someone has equaivalent $200,000 in a UK account then FBAR report is required because account is over $10,000.

FATCA example: If a unmarried individual filing USC lives outside US and has $200,000 maximum in UK account then FATCA report not required because rules are that only report if more than $200,000 at end of tax year or more than $300,000 at any time during the year.

FATCA rules depends where you live and your IRS tax filing status.
Live abroad, Married filing a joint income tax return, then threshold is more than $400,000 at end of tax year or more than $600,000 at any time during the year.
The threshold amounts are less if you live in US and have overseas accounts.

(Threshold amounts can change annually so check IRS for your year)

The reports themselves are not too bad, just all details of your foreign accounts and the need to do them fully, accurately and timely.
Thank you so much. I understand it much better now. I will make sure I only have FBAR filing.
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