Nanny State Britain
#61
Lost in Space
Joined: Oct 2009
Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK
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Re: Nanny State Britain
On the government trying to police food, along with all the other problems, often the science of the day is wrong! There's plenty of debate about whether cholesterol is bad for everyone, and certainly at one point there was a spate of small children with health problems because their parents thought it would be good to feed them skim milk. Cholesterol is an important building block for the brain and nerves.
At one point eggs were evil, now they're admitting they're a good food, and as they're cheap they could be a very healthy boost for diets when money's tight.
If they'd been able to follow scientific certainty decades ago they'd have tried to force everyone to eat margarine. They certainly convinced a whole lot of people it was good for them. And then, whoops, hydrogenated fats are lethal!
Then carbohydrates were wonder food. Eat lots of bread and pasta, but just make sure to avoid fat. Might as well inject sugar into the bloodstream.
And on, and on. But every time they're so so certain they're right.
Bev
At one point eggs were evil, now they're admitting they're a good food, and as they're cheap they could be a very healthy boost for diets when money's tight.
If they'd been able to follow scientific certainty decades ago they'd have tried to force everyone to eat margarine. They certainly convinced a whole lot of people it was good for them. And then, whoops, hydrogenated fats are lethal!
Then carbohydrates were wonder food. Eat lots of bread and pasta, but just make sure to avoid fat. Might as well inject sugar into the bloodstream.
And on, and on. But every time they're so so certain they're right.
Bev
A friend told me we should only eat food that granny would recognise!
#62
Lost in Space
Joined: Oct 2009
Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK
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Re: Nanny State Britain
Agree to some extent: the kids in UK who get bad press deserve bad press. Like you I have worked with them too, for 30 years now, so have a pretty clear idea of the change and the extent of change.
Those who get into the press, do so because they make 'good press' for the papers and 'good media' for television news.
Kida doing well, doesnt make 'good news' for these people.
There is a greater number of 'bad kids' with a more widespread and extreme form of 'badness' than 20 or 30 years ago. They have got worse.
However, like you say there ia a large majority of great kids who are good citizens and contribute to society. Many of the kids I worked with in UK did community work including working voluntarily in hospices.
Also the comment about young people being less healthy is correct. Too much time interacting with technology in 'virtual worlds' rather than real people in the real world. This has resulted in greater obesity and an inability to relate properly to the next generation up.
and......... just dont get me on to the drinking habits of the young ....... baaaaah humbug!
Those who get into the press, do so because they make 'good press' for the papers and 'good media' for television news.
Kida doing well, doesnt make 'good news' for these people.
There is a greater number of 'bad kids' with a more widespread and extreme form of 'badness' than 20 or 30 years ago. They have got worse.
However, like you say there ia a large majority of great kids who are good citizens and contribute to society. Many of the kids I worked with in UK did community work including working voluntarily in hospices.
Also the comment about young people being less healthy is correct. Too much time interacting with technology in 'virtual worlds' rather than real people in the real world. This has resulted in greater obesity and an inability to relate properly to the next generation up.
and......... just dont get me on to the drinking habits of the young ....... baaaaah humbug!
Crap foods and too much telly is overt in some sections of society but not so much in others. Why don't people learn to cook a big spaghetti bolognaise that will last a few meals and is cheap and healthy if you pack it with vege rather than buying expensive packaged crap?
#63
Re: Nanny State Britain
To be fair about H1N1, though, there seems to be two or three times as many cases as the UK despite half the population.
#64
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I think the H1N1 was all a big rouse put about by the vaccine company
#65
Re: Nanny State Britain
Please think hard before coming back....I cannot believe what this place has become since I have been back, I love it and everything seems OK......but the bloody Goverment is doing my head in
Just listened to a Goverment minister on the radio...he said "we have got the population used to drinking skimmd milk, now our next step is to get them on to fully skimmed milk" please just **** off.
Clarkson is spot on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18F9cbIJnPM
http://www.nannystatebritain.co.uk/
Householders are to be visited by officials offering advice on cooking with leftovers, in a Government initiative to reduce the amount of food that gets thrown away. Home cooks will also be told what size portions to prepare, taught to understand ābest beforeā dates and urged to make more use of their freezers. The door-to-door campaign, which starts tomorrow,
A Birmingham mother has been fined Ā£75 for feeding the ducks at her local park - but her toddler son was allowed to carry on as he's too young to prosecute.
Vanessa Kelly, 26, was accosted by a council warden as she and 17-month-old Harry threw the birds scraps of bread in Smethwick, reports the Daily Telegraph.
She said: "The warden walked towards me and asked me to stop feeding the ducks because of complaints about children slipping over on their way to school on duck mess.
UK public broadcaster BBC is under fire for changing the lyrics on classics such as Humpty Dumpty and Little Miss Muffet to remove the negatives.
In the BBC version of Humpty Dumpty, the King's horses āmade Humpty happy againā instead of ācouldn't put Humpty together again.ā In Little Miss Muffet, Miss Muffet makes friends with the spider rather than being frightened away.
Just listened to a Goverment minister on the radio...he said "we have got the population used to drinking skimmd milk, now our next step is to get them on to fully skimmed milk" please just **** off.
Clarkson is spot on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18F9cbIJnPM
http://www.nannystatebritain.co.uk/
Householders are to be visited by officials offering advice on cooking with leftovers, in a Government initiative to reduce the amount of food that gets thrown away. Home cooks will also be told what size portions to prepare, taught to understand ābest beforeā dates and urged to make more use of their freezers. The door-to-door campaign, which starts tomorrow,
A Birmingham mother has been fined Ā£75 for feeding the ducks at her local park - but her toddler son was allowed to carry on as he's too young to prosecute.
Vanessa Kelly, 26, was accosted by a council warden as she and 17-month-old Harry threw the birds scraps of bread in Smethwick, reports the Daily Telegraph.
She said: "The warden walked towards me and asked me to stop feeding the ducks because of complaints about children slipping over on their way to school on duck mess.
UK public broadcaster BBC is under fire for changing the lyrics on classics such as Humpty Dumpty and Little Miss Muffet to remove the negatives.
In the BBC version of Humpty Dumpty, the King's horses āmade Humpty happy againā instead of ācouldn't put Humpty together again.ā In Little Miss Muffet, Miss Muffet makes friends with the spider rather than being frightened away.
Clarkson spot on?
Ooh dear.
#66
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True, but some of really do suffer. I never had any problems till moving here. Today is damp, windy and cold, I'm breathing easy. But come summer with close to 40 and dry desert air and all the landscaped gardens I'm stuffed up so bad I get headaches. Worse with each passing year
I think the H1N1 was all a big rouse put about by the vaccine company
I think the H1N1 was all a big rouse put about by the vaccine company
#70
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Joined: Dec 2002
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Its not actually called plain old Swine Flu anywhere - thats just one of the names its acquired in day-to-day life. Pandemic H1N1 is the official name worldwide.
#72
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Maybe the UK is reaping what it sows. Darwinean evolution is clearly being hampered by health and safety initiatives that are spareing the chav population an early death before they have a chance to reproduce (at age 12)?
#75
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BOGOFS - By One Get One Free's on foods-stuffs.......here in the UK Tesco supermarket store is to continue with the BOGOF deals but with a change of policy....you will be able to take just one of them home on the initial purchase together with a receipt indicating entitlement to the other, and at a later date you will be able to collect it on presentation of the receipt. The reason for this is obvious - up until now one gets eaten and the other goes "off" in the fridge if it is not put into the freezer on date of purchase.