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Sally Redux Jun 24th 2014 2:11 pm

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11314341)
Ask your avatar.

Some people seem to think it is :lol:

Novocastrian Jun 24th 2014 2:14 pm

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11314344)
Some people seem to think it is :lol:

Yes, true. Pity really.

bigglesworth Jun 24th 2014 8:21 pm

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11314296)
I can confirm that. As in, "Nah ah canna dee tha' noo, me mam sez I gorra gan hyem"

?

When I was young living in Germany for a while I learnt a bit of Swabian

I' gan alloy hime. (My version of pronunciation)

Was/Is "I am going home"

Strange as from my distant memory of philology at college, the Geordie accent is due to Scandinavian roots.

Bud the Wiser Jun 24th 2014 9:09 pm

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
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Gozit Jun 25th 2014 3:04 pm

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
The 's' vs 'z' is always a good one... Recognise vs recognize... Mom vs mum has been mentioned.

I use bugger a lot, people don't quite get it... "Right" sets people aback sometimes.

robin1234 Jun 26th 2014 1:26 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
I'm not sure if soccer versus football has ever been discussed on BE?

Pulaski Jun 26th 2014 1:30 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by robin1234 (Post 11315982)
I'm not sure if soccer versus football has ever been discussed on BE?

I don't believe so, or at least not today so far. :rolleyes:

bigglesworth Jun 26th 2014 3:48 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
Not sure why soccer should be discussed. It is an English word, I am sure. My school certainly referred to it as soccer back in the 30s or earlier
There used to be a board in the Hall for the captains of all the sports teams, and
soccer was there.

Pulaski Jun 26th 2014 4:14 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by bigglesworth (Post 11316139)
Not sure why soccer should be discussed. It is an English word, I am sure. My school certainly referred to it as soccer back in the 30s or earlier
There used to be a board in the Hall for the captains of all the sports teams, and
soccer was there.

There's a vociferous minority of BE members in the US who hold an unshakable belief that "soccer" is an abominable US word, and completely ignore it's widespread use in the UK.

I am not sure if the revulsion is caused by the word itself, or because the word "football" has been coopted in the US for a local debased form of rugby. :unsure:

dunroving Jun 26th 2014 5:08 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
I never hear football referred to as soccer here, either personally in Scotland or on telly. I have got strange looks before when I have reverted to the US "soccer" term. I think it is looked at as an outdated term these days - a bit like "rugger".

Sally Redux Jun 26th 2014 5:29 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11316184)
I never hear football referred to as soccer here, either personally in Scotland or on telly. I have got strange looks before when I have reverted to the US "soccer" term. I think it is looked at as an outdated term these days - a bit like "rugger".

Yes, I would say outdated over there. Have never heard it used in the normal run of conversation.

Novocastrian Jun 26th 2014 6:00 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11316195)
Yes, I would say outdated over there. Have never heard it used in the normal run of conversation.

"The USA are in the knockout rounds of the Soccerball World Trophy" = "England **** up in the World Cup".

Pulaski Jun 26th 2014 6:03 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11316184)
I never hear football referred to as soccer here, either personally in Scotland or on telly. I have got strange looks before when I have reverted to the US "soccer" term. I think it is looked at as an outdated term these days - a bit like "rugger".

Interesting. Perhaps its adoption by the US also led to a reaction against that word in the UK. :unsure: I seem to remember it being widely used when I was at school, but unfortunately that was, er, several years ago now. :rolleyes:

bigglesworth Jun 26th 2014 7:04 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 
Hmm. The plot thickens.
I have looked online, and the origin of soccer is defined as British late nineteenth century abbreviation of Association.

HOWEVER, my ancient printed edition of the Complete Oxford has NO mention of soccer.
My main complaint about the OED is that it includes too many words of uncertain origin. I would really be surprised if the word did exist but was not mentioned in the OED.

Anyone have any better origin?

robin1234 Jun 26th 2014 7:07 am

Re: Language Differences between USA and UK
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11316184)
I never hear football referred to as soccer here, either personally in Scotland or on telly. I have got strange looks before when I have reverted to the US "soccer" term. I think it is looked at as an outdated term these days - a bit like "rugger".


Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11316195)
Yes, I would say outdated over there. Have never heard it used in the normal run of conversation.

This would explain it then. I myself live in the 1950s.


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