Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Aug 16th 2009, 4:17 am
#46
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treating it with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treating it with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
Aug 16th 2009, 4:54 am
#49
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 31
Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
Oops sorry, that was 9 questions (last one didn't count cos it was rhetorical...
)
Aug 16th 2009, 5:52 am
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
If you read the posts, it is those who have been out of the UK the longest who are returning.
Aug 16th 2009, 9:27 am
#51
Forum Regular
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 40
Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.
Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.
What is Britain like now?
A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.
"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.
Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.
Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.
Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into.
The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?
Minor colleges now being called universities.
There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.
Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.
Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.
The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.
All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".
Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.
Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.
Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.
There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?
The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.
And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.
There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?
Aug 16th 2009, 10:49 am
#53
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Aug 16th 2009, 11:32 am
#54
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Depends if you are a skier or not. About 11,000 years ago half the British Isles was covered with an ice sheet - so, it's probably long past its better days. Just wait around, though, for this interglacial period to end...and happy days will be here again ! 
Aug 16th 2009, 12:05 pm
#55
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
I don't think life was ever perfect in Britain, so you were certainly deluded as you say. If you came back expecting it to be I can see how you would be dreadfully disappointed. I hope you are not expecting the US to be perfect too, or you will also be disappointed. I find a moderate ground, with acceptance of both countries' faults and finer points helps me to maintain a more balanced view. It also makes me happier wherever I am!
Aug 16th 2009, 12:41 pm
#56
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
And, if YOU read the posts in the MBTTUK forum, (which I do) then YOU will see that your second statement is also uninformed, some expats don't stick it out here longer than the first year
Aug 16th 2009, 2:29 pm
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
and there is one thing that typifies and characterises British folk and that is the inability or unwillingness to recognize valid criticism and then to respond to such in childish & juvenile ways, even though the issues at hand are serious ones.
You just have to watch the so called "political parties" perform in the House of Commons, with deplorable and shameful behavior, behavior that has been going on for hundreds of years, like school kids really.
This kind of mentality is endemic across the entire country and is evident on this forum on a regular basis.
You just have to watch the so called "political parties" perform in the House of Commons, with deplorable and shameful behavior, behavior that has been going on for hundreds of years, like school kids really.
This kind of mentality is endemic across the entire country and is evident on this forum on a regular basis.
Last edited by Anthony919; Aug 16th 2009 at 2:34 pm.
Aug 16th 2009, 2:32 pm
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Been hanging around a while, but this load of cr@p persuaded me to actually register just so I could ask a question (Hello) ...... kind of doubt I'll get a serious answer, but I'll ask anyway....do you really think those attributes are representative of Britain today? And do you really think that the same couldn't be said of a lot of other countries too, including your current country of residence? Or maybe they dont have suvs here? Or cellphones? Or problems in schools? Or child murders? Or immigrants? Or questionable media? Or dodgy politicians? Flippin eck, your head really is quite a long way up your orifice isn't it?
Oops sorry, that was 9 questions (last one didn't count cos it was rhetorical...)
Oops sorry, that was 9 questions (last one didn't count cos it was rhetorical...
)
Aug 16th 2009, 3:13 pm
#59
Wishful thinking...
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
Britain has been in decline for a long time and never recovered after the 2nd world war.
However, even without the war, the country never kept pace with the rest of the changes in the world and retained old and destructive attitudes.
Hence why it is a sad and pathetic state today.
Not being born there but growing up and spending most of my life there, I am very happy to see the back of it to be honest, as it was a miserable life for me.
While I like some things about the country and have some English habits/attitudes, as well as some of my all time fave TV progs being British (One foot in the Grave, Only Fools & Horses, Its a Knockout, etc), I won't return under any circumstances.
The USA, even though it may be a little foreign to some people, suits me so much better than Britain and I love it here, even though I don't like how they drive and you have to temper your discussions sometimes, because people here have guns.
However, even without the war, the country never kept pace with the rest of the changes in the world and retained old and destructive attitudes.
Hence why it is a sad and pathetic state today.
Not being born there but growing up and spending most of my life there, I am very happy to see the back of it to be honest, as it was a miserable life for me.
While I like some things about the country and have some English habits/attitudes, as well as some of my all time fave TV progs being British (One foot in the Grave, Only Fools & Horses, Its a Knockout, etc), I won't return under any circumstances.
The USA, even though it may be a little foreign to some people, suits me so much better than Britain and I love it here, even though I don't like how they drive and you have to temper your discussions sometimes, because people here have guns.
The Second world war, happened, most other countries rebuilt, and got on with rebuilding a better structure totally, not us, and in a lot of ways we have the same values as they did back then, the government is a standing joke now, no one believes in anything they say as if they did anyway, its costly to live here, the housing ladder for most now is out of reach, and we are the third highest taxed nation in the world, the streets are dirty,and to be honest Britain looks tired and run down, it's stuck in an age no one knows how to move and improve on, so anyone thinking of coming back here, please make sure you leave the aircraft with rose tinted glasses left on board.
Interest rates are very low, savers aren't getting the interest rates and are expected to go out and spend, yeh right, with lots of big high street names going tits up, who will be next, Allied carpets the latest target to be hit.
No ladies and gents think very hard before returning to good old Britain..
Aug 16th 2009, 3:23 pm
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Re: Is the British Isles long past it's better days or not?
What a weird thread.
Why so much hatred and dissing of the UK?
Don't you people realize there is no utopia, no perfect place to live.
Governments will always do wrong by some people, there will always be something to comlpain about where ever you live.
Maybe just be grateful you are not living in a third world country....
..and as for the poster complaining about Britain not moving foward from
WW2....you're having a laugh aren't you??? How old are you? Sheesh..
Why so much hatred and dissing of the UK?
Don't you people realize there is no utopia, no perfect place to live.
Governments will always do wrong by some people, there will always be something to comlpain about where ever you live.
Maybe just be grateful you are not living in a third world country....
..and as for the poster complaining about Britain not moving foward from
WW2....you're having a laugh aren't you??? How old are you? Sheesh..