"Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
May 30th 2015, 12:39 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Hello everyone,
I am new here, so apologies in advance if I am in the wrong thread.
Couldn't find anything else
Got an offer for a Job in Abu Dhabi after 2 years of trying very hard.
Offer is very simple, 129.000 AED
Basically with every single thing included 10.750 AED a month
My wife, 1 yo baby and me will be there, if we accept it.
In it, we have health insurance, car allowance, housing allowance, 2 months temporary accommodation paid from company, flight allowance.
Based on my calculations it would be ok to live there.
Technical Retail Position will be the first
I was looking for a studio flat in cheap areas, ie. Khalifa City and MBZ.
It would roughly cost 25k +- 3k a year with W/E included in the rent. (ca.2500pm)
Car would cost me 1500pm and petrol about 170 pm (ca 1670pm)
Grocery 800 pm
Personal Care 450 AED
Laundry 160AED
Sim card 125 AED
Internet 400 AED
baby expenses 850 AED
Total= ca. 6955 AED (10750 - 6955 = 3795AED)
just give another 1800 on top of it, in case prices change or we spend a bit more on something) still 2 k left
Am I being realistic or can i just say no to the company? No further negotiation possible though.
Thanking you guys in advance for your advice.
I am new here, so apologies in advance if I am in the wrong thread.
Couldn't find anything else
Got an offer for a Job in Abu Dhabi after 2 years of trying very hard.
Offer is very simple, 129.000 AED
Basically with every single thing included 10.750 AED a month
My wife, 1 yo baby and me will be there, if we accept it.
In it, we have health insurance, car allowance, housing allowance, 2 months temporary accommodation paid from company, flight allowance.
Based on my calculations it would be ok to live there.
Technical Retail Position will be the first
I was looking for a studio flat in cheap areas, ie. Khalifa City and MBZ.
It would roughly cost 25k +- 3k a year with W/E included in the rent. (ca.2500pm)
Car would cost me 1500pm and petrol about 170 pm (ca 1670pm)
Grocery 800 pm
Personal Care 450 AED
Laundry 160AED
Sim card 125 AED
Internet 400 AED
baby expenses 850 AED
Total= ca. 6955 AED (10750 - 6955 = 3795AED)
just give another 1800 on top of it, in case prices change or we spend a bit more on something) still 2 k left
Am I being realistic or can i just say no to the company? No further negotiation possible though.
Thanking you guys in advance for your advice.
May 31st 2015, 9:18 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Even if your housing costs were paid in full that is a very low salary to support two adults and a baby.
Your estimate of AED 800 a month on groceries is way off.
Bear in mind that you may still have UK tax liabilities, depending on when you leave the UK and how long you remain in the UAE and you have no provision to save.
I don't think it's doable. Sorry, but best you know before you make a mistake.
Your estimate of AED 800 a month on groceries is way off.
Bear in mind that you may still have UK tax liabilities, depending on when you leave the UK and how long you remain in the UAE and you have no provision to save.
I don't think it's doable. Sorry, but best you know before you make a mistake.
May 31st 2015, 10:20 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by Meow
Even if your housing costs were paid in full that is a very low salary to support two adults and a baby.
Your estimate of AED 800 a month on groceries is way off.
Bear in mind that you may still have UK tax liabilities, depending on when you leave the UK and how long you remain in the UAE and you have no provision to save.
I don't think it's doable. Sorry, but best you know before you make a mistake.
Your estimate of AED 800 a month on groceries is way off.
Bear in mind that you may still have UK tax liabilities, depending on when you leave the UK and how long you remain in the UAE and you have no provision to save.
I don't think it's doable. Sorry, but best you know before you make a mistake.
I have rejected the offer already.
Aug 17th 2015, 10:24 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Some good information on this thread.
Thank you guys
Thank you guys
Aug 17th 2015, 10:32 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
For jobs like this you cannot compete with workers from the Philippines, India and Pakistan.
Oct 28th 2015, 2:56 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
I am not sure whether it has been asked before or not, apologies if yes.
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
Nov 2nd 2015, 4:47 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by Tahir84
I am not sure whether it has been asked before or not, apologies if yes.
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
unless to are looking to sell your soul.
Jan 8th 2016, 5:18 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by Millhouse
That's a much easier analysis - The answer is... "it isn't"
unless to are looking to sell your soul.
unless to are looking to sell your soul.
Jan 8th 2016, 5:28 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
No alcohol ? You are joking. More drinking goes on in Saudi compounds than in a Glasgow pub !
Jan 9th 2016, 6:47 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by Epicion
Is it because of the religious police/no alcohol or fun/Sex-segregated life style that is the soul selling part or is there something I'm missing?
Aug 16th 2016, 7:13 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by Tahir84
I am not sure whether it has been asked before or not, apologies if yes.
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
Is there a chance that 'Is it worth it' sheet can be created for Saudi Arabia also?
Oct 9th 2016, 7:15 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Hi all
I stumbled upon this site while trying to find some answers. Hence, the post. I hope you can help me.
I live in London and have a senior engineering position with a renowned international consultancy. Recently, I was thinking about going back to Middle East. I shot my CV and got contacted by an HR company. After short discussion, I've agreed that they send my CV to Qatar Petroleum. I don't know the grade that I applied for. Now, my questions and doubts are:
- What to expect regarding the salary and benefits? What is the right way to talk about these things? Is there a thumb rule or something?
- I have a family and want them with me. If we go there, it should be for a longer period, not just few years.
- Kids are still not going to school, but it is something to think about in the short run. What are best schools in Doha and can I hope to chose the school with QP?
- I worked in Qatar previously. However, I don't know whether my employer cancelled my visa when I resigned, since I resigned from the home office. Is there any way to check this? Is this relevant at all when applying for QP?
Thanks
I stumbled upon this site while trying to find some answers. Hence, the post. I hope you can help me.
I live in London and have a senior engineering position with a renowned international consultancy. Recently, I was thinking about going back to Middle East. I shot my CV and got contacted by an HR company. After short discussion, I've agreed that they send my CV to Qatar Petroleum. I don't know the grade that I applied for. Now, my questions and doubts are:
- What to expect regarding the salary and benefits? What is the right way to talk about these things? Is there a thumb rule or something?
- I have a family and want them with me. If we go there, it should be for a longer period, not just few years.
- Kids are still not going to school, but it is something to think about in the short run. What are best schools in Doha and can I hope to chose the school with QP?
- I worked in Qatar previously. However, I don't know whether my employer cancelled my visa when I resigned, since I resigned from the home office. Is there any way to check this? Is this relevant at all when applying for QP?
Thanks
Oct 9th 2016, 8:49 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Why are you going there ? What is the motive for moving ? I would say that if you are established in a professional job in London, this is not a good time to move to the Gulf.
Oct 16th 2016, 1:56 pm
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
Originally Posted by JoeLon
Hi all
I stumbled upon this site while trying to find some answers. Hence, the post. I hope you can help me.
I live in London and have a senior engineering position with a renowned international consultancy. Recently, I was thinking about going back to Middle East. I shot my CV and got contacted by an HR company. After short discussion, I've agreed that they send my CV to Qatar Petroleum. I don't know the grade that I applied for. Now, my questions and doubts are:
- What to expect regarding the salary and benefits? What is the right way to talk about these things? Is there a thumb rule or something?
- I have a family and want them with me. If we go there, it should be for a longer period, not just few years.
- Kids are still not going to school, but it is something to think about in the short run. What are best schools in Doha and can I hope to chose the school with QP?
- I worked in Qatar previously. However, I don't know whether my employer cancelled my visa when I resigned, since I resigned from the home office. Is there any way to check this? Is this relevant at all when applying for QP?
Thanks
I stumbled upon this site while trying to find some answers. Hence, the post. I hope you can help me.
I live in London and have a senior engineering position with a renowned international consultancy. Recently, I was thinking about going back to Middle East. I shot my CV and got contacted by an HR company. After short discussion, I've agreed that they send my CV to Qatar Petroleum. I don't know the grade that I applied for. Now, my questions and doubts are:
- What to expect regarding the salary and benefits? What is the right way to talk about these things? Is there a thumb rule or something?
- I have a family and want them with me. If we go there, it should be for a longer period, not just few years.
- Kids are still not going to school, but it is something to think about in the short run. What are best schools in Doha and can I hope to chose the school with QP?
- I worked in Qatar previously. However, I don't know whether my employer cancelled my visa when I resigned, since I resigned from the home office. Is there any way to check this? Is this relevant at all when applying for QP?
Thanks
Thanks
Oct 17th 2016, 9:38 am
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Re: "Is It Worth It" - a guide to costs vs income for the UAE & Qatar
JoeLon - As a rule of thumb, take your current after tax salary and add 20%. Then decide if that is enough to make it worth your move. If not, add more.
But better to let them offer first.
Once you have the offer you can try to negotiate from there. Some places that can work (e.g. add flights home) and other places the offer is pretty much fixed. It depends how much they need you. If there's other qualified candidates then you don't have much bargaining power.
But better to let them offer first.
Once you have the offer you can try to negotiate from there. Some places that can work (e.g. add flights home) and other places the offer is pretty much fixed. It depends how much they need you. If there's other qualified candidates then you don't have much bargaining power.
