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Old Apr 18th 2012, 11:17 am
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I have no problem with journos tweeting or reporting on the situation, but they need to report both sides of the story.

Eason has so far tweeted 20+ times about the protestors and from what I could tell only once about the rest of the people in Bahrain who are just getting on with life. This is a bit sad considering the split is probably 5% vs 95% of the population

Also did he tweet about human rights issues in China? Of course not.
And is he planning to tweet about human rights issues in India? Of course not.
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I have no problem with journos tweeting or reporting on the situation, but they need to report both sides of the story.

Eason has so far tweeted 20+ times about the protestors and from what I could tell only once about the rest of the people in Bahrain who are just getting on with life. This is a bit sad considering the split is probably 5% vs 95% of the population

Also did he tweet about human rights issues in China? Of course not.
And is he planning to tweet about human rights issues in India? Of course not.
Here's a different view point re: human rights from http://www.portalf1.com/en/articles/...-human-rights/

"The Bahrain Grand Prix should not happen for one reason only. The country is in a state of emergency "

Lastly - this is my point - are you expecting all these journos that are flying in to get the whole story? I doubt it. What they will get is what they are used to getting - which is a story. And that is what I think you'll be seeing a lot of - quite one sided stories...
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Here's a different view point re: human rights from http://www.portalf1.com/en/articles/...-human-rights/

"The Bahrain Grand Prix should not happen for one reason only. The country is in a state of emergency "

Lastly - this is my point - are you expecting all these journos that are flying in to get the whole story? I doubt it. What they will get is what they are used to getting - which is a story. And that is what I think you'll be seeing a lot of - quite one sided stories...
No of course they won't balance their coverage, which is why they should not report on any of it and rather focus on the event itself...

that article is a load of bollocks. there is a risk of some nutter disrupting the race in every country currently on the schedule, i don't see why we should be more worried about bahrain. at least there the risk is visible and known to all hence more precautions are taken.

the current published threat level in the uk for example is 'substantial' which means that an attack is a strong possibility (https://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/threat-levels.html). does that mean the olympics should be cancelled?

what is your personal opinion Auto? should it be cancelled or allowed to proceed?
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i don't see why we should be more worried about bahrain.

Am I wrong - but didn't you leave Bahrain for Dubai as you felt unsafe? I honestly could be wrong, but that's what I thought?

the current published threat level in the uk for example is 'substantial' which means that an attack is a strong possibility (https://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/threat-levels.html). does that mean the olympics should be cancelled?

Are you really equating London and Bahrain? Seriously?

what is your personal opinion Auto? should it be cancelled or allowed to proceed?

To be honest, I've not been there since the troubles have started. My first hand views in some ways come from this post and also from western reports. And a lot of you guys have been worried, moved country, seen some heavy shit inc. teargas, gas canisters blowing up, rubber bullets, swords and crude bombs plus indicating foreign countries with influence etc etc.

Do I think it is safe to run it - maybe.
Do I think it's right to run it, to be honest, I err on no.


What about you Norsk? You have more first hand knowledge - should they run it and why (I assume you think they should)
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You're right, feeling unsafe (mainly due to my family) was one of the reasons why I left Bahrain. The other was that my job in Saudi was not what I wanted from my career and my employers were not great (actually make that shit)...

The situation today is vastly different from what it was last year based on what people I know on the ground tell me. It has somehow stabilised itself back to 'Bahrain normality'. Don't forget that there has been protesting in the villages for decades, and for sure the Shia have been dumped on by the Sunnis during that whole time. The difference now is that because of the Arab Spring people of the world actually give a toss..

No, I'm definitely not equating Bahrain to the UK. I am however saying that every country in the world has risks associated with hosting a major sporting event. Let us not be so narrow-minded as to believe that nothing could ever happen in a so-called democratic country just because they are not considered to be questionable in terms of human rights..

Do I think they should let it run this year? Yes I do.

Last year cancelling the race was the right decision (and quite rightly the decision was driven by the Bahrainis themselves). You could argue that the FIA should not have left the race on the calendar this year, but since it is there cancelling it now would be foolish thing to do. The only justified reason I can see is if there was concrete proof of almost certain injury to teams, spectators or others in Bahrain.

I don't think it is in the FIA's interest to get involved in politics by judging individual countries of being in breach of their 'standards'. Also there is the small case of how to decide what those 'standards' look like. Much better/easier to stay on the outside...
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Hmm, have not had internet access for a while but my Bahrain visa is now ready and flights are being booked for my arrival next week. I thought it was a prudent move to wait until after the GP had passed...

I've seen some TV news (BBC, CNN & Sky) so have been able to try and catch the present position as best you can from afar.

Not quite sure what to expect on my arrival to be honest. I'm a little torn between fear of the unknown (in respect of the tensions) and balancing being worried (and family concerns over my safety) against the positive view that you can safely avoid being affected by these problems and troubles.

Hope to catch up with some of you guys/girls at some stage in the near future. Be safe!
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Re autonomy, yeah, I reckon they've shot themselves in the foot (with a teargas canister perhaps ) by pushing so hard to keep the F1. They obviously thought all the international media would be good boys like the locals and only report the race and nothing else. Clearly got no idea how western press works: if they get a sniff of a story that'll sell (downtrodden protesters, etc) they go after it like Gary Glitter in a kindergarten. Did you read the Mirror stuff by Byron whatsisname? Gov should probably ask Bell Pottinger for a refund

Re Norsk, wouldn't say it's 95/5 mate, have you been at the GDN again?? Just last month they had a huge anti-gov march, reckon upwards of a quarter of all Bahrainis were on it. When you consider many that didn't march still support them but couldn't make it (work, jail, kids, out of country, laziness...) no doubt there's a whole bunch of protesters out there. Plus Al Wefaq got two thirds of the vote in the last election (but less than half of the seats, long live democracy! )

And now they've started blowing up the rozzers....who's next? Hope they get Schumacher, the cheating, Damon Hill-crashing bastard! But leave Jenson alone!!

Re tockalosh Mate if you want a good laugh look up @sheikhkhalifapm on twitter.


PS Norsk: "and quite rightly the decision was driven by the Bahrainis themselves"

I see what you did there....
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Not sure if this link will work - real time twitter feed for search on F1 Bahrain

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/f1%20bahrain

Not going too well so far...
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Re autonomy, yeah, I reckon they've shot themselves in the foot (with a teargas canister perhaps ) by pushing so hard to keep the F1. They obviously thought all the international media would be good boys like the locals and only report the race and nothing else. Clearly got no idea how western press works: if they get a sniff of a story that'll sell (downtrodden protesters, etc) they go after it like Gary Glitter in a kindergarten. Did you read the Mirror stuff by Byron whatsisname? Gov should probably ask Bell Pottinger for a refund

Re Norsk, wouldn't say it's 95/5 mate, have you been at the GDN again?? Just last month they had a huge anti-gov march, reckon upwards of a quarter of all Bahrainis were on it. When you consider many that didn't march still support them but couldn't make it (work, jail, kids, out of country, laziness...) no doubt there's a whole bunch of protesters out there. Plus Al Wefaq got two thirds of the vote in the last election (but less than half of the seats, long live democracy! )

And now they've started blowing up the rozzers....who's next? Hope they get Schumacher, the cheating, Damon Hill-crashing bastard! But leave Jenson alone!!

Re tockalosh Mate if you want a good laugh look up @sheikhkhalifapm on twitter.


PS Norsk: "and quite rightly the decision was driven by the Bahrainis themselves"

I see what you did there....
So you're saying that most of the Bahraini population are actively fighting the police in the villages? Or that they would if they could.. Get real dude!

I'm sure 95% want reform, but there is a big difference between wanting reform and wanting to kill the royal family.....

by the way the tone of your posts suck! and i don't mean just this one...

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Originally Posted by Autonomy
Not sure if this link will work - real time twitter feed for search on F1 Bahrain

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/f1%20bahrain

Not going too well so far...
Works fine. Thanks for posting.

Everyone with a twitter account and spare time are jumping on the bandwagon it seems. As long it doesn't translate into bad shit happening it will be fine..
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So you're saying that most of the Bahraini population are actively fighting the police in the villages? Or that they would if they could.. Get real dude!

I'm sure 95% want reform, but there is a big difference between wanting reform and wanting to kill the royal family.....

by the way the tone of your posts suck! and i don't mean just this one...
I'd say about half support sticking it to the filth, going by the big march and election results (though of course many are too finger-licken to go out and do it themselves). I know a lot of people back in Blighty mightn't be too chuffed about a bunch of uniformed foreigners kicking people's doors and heads in! And dont forget this all started off peaceful before the pakis started to craki skulls! (Ooh).

You don't like my tone? Well thank you Mrs Mary Whitehouse! Or is it O'Brien (one for the high-brows there). Mate you've gotta find the humour where you can - wouldn't surprise me if that Sacha Baron Cohen did something about all thi....oh hang on, he has!




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I'd say about half support sticking it to the filth, going by the big march and election results (though of course many are too finger-licken to go out and do it themselves). I know a lot of people back in Blighty mightn't be too chuffed about a bunch of uniformed foreigners kicking people's doors and heads in! And dont forget this all started off peaceful before the pakis started to craki skulls! (Ooh).

You don't like my tone? Well thank you Mrs Mary Whitehouse! Or is it O'Brien (one for the high-brows there). Mate you've gotta find the humour where you can - wouldn't surprise me if that Sacha Baron Cohen did something about all thi....oh hang on, he has!

PS Ten grand to the usual account, Mr Khamenei
what a surprising response...

i wonder if you talk tough in person as well, or just when hiding behind your keyboard. anyway i don't really give a shit about your stupid digs and personal attacks, but there are others on this forum that have been offended.

by the way the problem with humour is that some people think they funny when in fact they just aren't..
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what a surprising response...

i wonder if you talk tough in person as well, or just when hiding behind your keyboard. anyway i don't really give a shit about your stupid digs and personal attacks, but there are others on this forum that have been offended.

by the way the problem with humour is that some people think they funny when in fact they just aren't..
Just as well free speech includes the right to offend then, eh Stalin? And Bahrain is a nation of free speech, which I know because the GDN told me so!

Btw I didn't make any personal attacks. But for the record, you're a ****
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Just as well free speech includes the right to offend then, eh Stalin? And Bahrain is a nation of free speech, which I know because the GDN told me so!

Btw I didn't make any personal attacks. But for the record, you're a ****
nice!

at least you are predictable, but then again simple people usually are...
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Originally Posted by Chipsnsalsa
Just as well free speech includes the right to offend then, eh Stalin? And Bahrain is a nation of free speech, which I know because the GDN told me so!

Btw I didn't make any personal attacks. But for the record, you're a ****
and u said u didnt want to bumb into me
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