Norm_uk

Come on now...you're above logical fallacies regardless of if you agree or disagree with someone.

No one has suggested mass deportations have they? They are just exercising their right as Britons to moan and moan to their heart's content.

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littlejimmy

Wow, Norm. Even if one disagrees with you, one has to admire your tenacity...it's like a carpet bombing of Norm posts on this forum tonight!

norsk

No politician with any ambition has suggested it as they would be labelled racists and not taken seriously afterwards, but I am pretty sure the concept has been toyed with by quite a few in private.

I completely agree with medical tourism being a bad thing, but I have a massive problem when someone says that all foreigners living in the UK are using services to which they are not entitled including NHS.

Fossildog

As someone pointed out earlier integration has been deemed a non starter hence the use of the word diversity. Every time I hear the word diversity being used it reinforces the failure of multiculturalism.

You are absolutely right to say that the concerns are bigger than housing and money. These are the triggers though that will cause people to wake up, along with the fact that within 15 years white English births will account for less that 50% of babies born in the UK.

Norm_uk

Bloody insomnia...and you're up late too

This will later be used as evidence to insist wives and girlfriends don't go to be early leaving their men up with lots of grog and the internet.

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Norm_uk

Even talking immigration seems to be a political career killer these days. That said we can see so called right wingers (people who talk about borders, culture, nation state, ethnicity are right wingers now in Europe) are getting more votes, and not just from the working class folk who read the Mail apparently.

I think if people work in Britain and pay the same taxes everyone else they should have access the NHS. If they are not working it should be part of the visit visa process that they have proper medical insurance...

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Norm_uk

Diversity only applies in white majority countries - ever notice that? No one tells the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese or Arabs they are not 'diverse' enough.

Multiculturalism hinders integration, rubbishes immigrants who do want to fit in and blend in (and many do - they go to Britain precisely for the values, culture and history). It also rubbishes the natives just as much - yes, it's a huge social experiment failure our children and grandchildren will have to deal with.

I am always weary of birth rate projections as they assume current trends will continue - which they rarely do. That said there is clearly a demographic time bomb in Britain waiting to go off if it's not dealt with.

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littlejimmy

Not really, it's only 11pm here in the Netherlands. And it's the veekend. There's more Hertog Jan to be imbibed yet!

Norm_uk

It's only 1am here - if I was out I would just about be starting to feel the booze tickle my toes.

Do they have booze in the Netherlands? I did try some Dutch stuff they called beer but I am sure it was a label misprint for tea or something

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