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Old Jun 27th 2021 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by Gozit
I don't think the EU or the US thinks their drivers are reckless.

Just a difference in opinion.

I'd go to a drag strip, but alas, they haven't been allowed to open until very recently.
Here you go
https://maltamotorsport.org/championships/drag-racing/
https://moovitapp.com/index/en-gb/pu..._42842500-4507
https://maltamotorsport.org/tag/malt...g-association/
https://motorsmt.tv/?blogcategory=Drag+Racing
 
Old Jun 27th 2021 | 8:37 pm
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Sorry I meant Ontario drag strips. I would probably kill my Maltese car if I took it to a drag strip it's a little Kia Picanto. It struggles when I drive with the A/C on (which is a must in this heat.)

But that is great info for if I ever buy myself a car down here.
 
Old Jun 27th 2021 | 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
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European freeways and autobahns are totally different to roads like the 401! Don't try comparing apples with oranges

This attitude is why so many european drivers think Canadian drivers are terrible! If you want to drive recklessly, stay in Europe.
Since you mentioned the 401, I've never come across something similar anywhere in Europe, consisting of an "Expressway" or a "Collector". Ironically during peak hours the "Expressway" isn't really fast either, other than it costs....

I think another difference is the manufacturing of the car. Canadian or US spec can be very different from European. Sometimes this difference is simply technically inferior. I often recall that steering wheels are not as responsive in some models in Canada, than in Europe. And then there is the great wilderness, the great outdoors and possible collision with whatever. Colliding with a moose is rather rare in France, Germany or Italy.
 
Old Jun 28th 2021 | 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
This attitude is why so many european drivers think Canadian drivers are terrible!
The head of physio is a Yorkshireman who was a physio in the army before coming to Canada. He said Saskatchewan drivers are crap. He said in 5 years practicing in England he saw 2 cases of whiplash. He came here and had 11 on the first day. I guess we're tailgaters.
 
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The head of physio is a Yorkshireman who was a physio in the army before coming to Canada. He said Saskatchewan drivers are crap. He said in 5 years practicing in England he saw 2 cases of whiplash. He came here and had 11 on the first day. I guess we're tailgaters.
I'd say one challenge is with immigrants coming from countries where driving in winter and snowy icy conditions is unknown, and winter tyres are unheard off. That fact alone will be some challenge for some immigrants.

I think this doesn't have anything to do with wilful blindness or corruption anymore. I also don't think Canadians or some Canadians are willfully blind, they are just naïve about certain things and this leaves room for corruption.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeMango
I think this doesn't have anything to do with wilful blindness or corruption anymore. I also don't think Canadians or some Canadians are willfully blind, they are just naïve about certain things and this leaves room for corruption.
It used to be normal to fire the whole Montreal police drug squad about every 10 years and replace them with detectives that weren't on the pad yet. This is something I haven't seen in the news recently, so maybe they've got a better system of accountability in place now.
 
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It used to be normal to fire the whole Montreal police drug squad about every 10 years and replace them with detectives that weren't on the pad yet. This is something I haven't seen in the news recently, so maybe they've got a better system of accountability in place now.
Police departments but also fire departments are such a thing. In my opinion Canada is prone to or has certain tendencies of certain blindness and corruption, especially at local / municipal level as well as citizenship/naturalization matters. The answer or excuse is pretty simple, "raise property taxes" and or "pretend it didn't happen", especially in light of the 2nd Quebec independence referendum, but also before the 2008 election and the 2008 - 2009 parliamentary dispute, I've had my doubts.
 
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It used to be normal to fire the whole Montreal police drug squad about every 10 years and replace them with detectives that weren't on the pad yet. This is something I haven't seen in the news recently, so maybe they've got a better system of accountability in place now.
Always the rumor of the hells angels controlling the port of Vancouver, how true these rumors are is anyone's guess, but I am sure organized crime has some footing at the port, I wouldn't be surprised if organized crime has people working at the airport on their payroll, always did seem to be an oddly large amount of low paid workers driving some high end cars, wonder how they can afford them making $15-$20/hr.

 
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The Govt, Police and any Port Authority (airport or marine) will never admit publicly that OCG's do have a certain amount of control at these facilities.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeMango
Since you mentioned the 401, I've never come across something similar anywhere in Europe, consisting of an "Expressway" or a "Collector". Ironically during peak hours the "Expressway" isn't really fast either, other than it costs....

I think another difference is the manufacturing of the car. Canadian or US spec can be very different from European. Sometimes this difference is simply technically inferior. I often recall that steering wheels are not as responsive in some models in Canada, than in Europe. And then there is the great wilderness, the great outdoors and possible collision with whatever. Colliding with a moose is rather rare in France, Germany or Italy.
Many of the motorways/autoroutes (expressways) in France are toll roads (many with cameras!)... and I've travelled most of them.. https://about-france.com/geo/motorways.htm

https://about-france.com/driving.htm#tolls (they also have transponder payments - Liber-T - as well as telepay, cash and card.. )

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Trans Canada Hwy 1 Chilliwack to Langley looks like this.



At Langley it widens




The highway barely touches the far east side of Vancouver, curving to cross the ironworkers bridge into North Vancouver, the bridge can be a massive bottle neck, I have seen the back up for the bridge as far back as 6-8km at times, if there is an accident its even worse, its why a lot of people wont go to the north shore, the bridges are awful.


What the Ironworkers Bridge can be when busy...








 
Old Jun 28th 2021 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by OrangeMango
Since you mentioned the 401, I've never come across something similar anywhere in Europe, consisting of an "Expressway" or a "Collector". Ironically during peak hours the "Expressway" isn't really fast either, other than it costs....

I think another difference is the manufacturing of the car. Canadian or US spec can be very different from European. Sometimes this difference is simply technically inferior. I often recall that steering wheels are not as responsive in some models in Canada, than in Europe. And then there is the great wilderness, the great outdoors and possible collision with whatever. Colliding with a moose is rather rare in France, Germany or Italy.
Yes I agree with this. (Though not surprising as I agree on most things with you OM )

I think it depends on the car model too...ie an Audi S5 bought in Canada will be just as responsive as the German one. But the VW Jetta maybe not.
 
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Originally Posted by Gozit

I think it depends on the car model too...ie an Audi S5 bought in Canada will be just as responsive as the German one. But the VW Jetta maybe not.
We're drifting a bit far from the original thread now.

Back when I lived in Canada, the Canadian spec VW Golf and Jetta was very much inferior to the French Dutch / German / EU spec model. BMW and Audi in Canada was very close to the EU spec. Headlights, rear lights and indicators are often the most obvious difference, also the chime when the seat belt isn't on, etc...

Also the further technological development goes, the more it's adapted to the region, continent or country they are sold in.

It's not only steering or brakes or bumpers, but shock absorbers etc... In my opinion it seemed that bumpers and shock absorbers in the US and Canada were the only thing superior to their EU spec model. Also North America seemed to be stricter on emission standards?

There are simpler things like the radio, which is often built in and can't be changed that easily. North American radio often only starts at 88.1 FM, while in Europe it often starts at 87,5 or 87,6 FM plus there can be a different station way closer. For instance, in North America it's only 99,9 FM, and then 100.1 FM, but never 100.0 FM as in Europe. Europe has the requirement to coordinate FM stations way closer than in North America, plus these days, there is DAB and DAB+ which is unheard off in North America where there is Sirius XM. AM Radio is on even numbers in North America and in 10 kHz steps, in Europe it's in 9kHz steps when it scans the band.....

 
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Originally Posted by OrangeMango
We're drifting a bit far from the original thread now.

Back when I lived in Canada, the Canadian spec VW Golf and Jetta was very much inferior to the French Dutch / German / EU spec model. BMW and Audi in Canada was very close to the EU spec. Headlights, rear lights and indicators are often the most obvious difference, also the chime when the seat belt isn't on, etc...

Also the further technological development goes, the more it's adapted to the region, continent or country they are sold in.

It's not only steering or brakes or bumpers, but shock absorbers etc... In my opinion it seemed that bumpers and shock absorbers in the US and Canada were the only thing superior to their EU spec model. Also North America seemed to be stricter on emission standards?

There are simpler things like the radio, which is often built in and can't be changed that easily. North American radio often only starts at 88.1 FM, while in Europe it often starts at 87,5 or 87,6 FM plus there can be a different station way closer. For instance, in North America it's only 99,9 FM, and then 100.1 FM, but never 100.0 FM as in Europe. Europe has the requirement to coordinate FM stations way closer than in North America, plus these days, there is DAB and DAB+ which is unheard off in North America where there is Sirius XM. AM Radio is on even numbers in North America and in 10 kHz steps, in Europe it's in 9kHz steps when it scans the band.....
The cars I have that were also sold in Europe have the same specifications as in Europe but that requires some shopping. Most cars here are blighted with slush boxes.
 

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