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dthomas Mar 3rd 2010 2:48 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by Bill_S (Post 8390427)
hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

Plagiarism. Please use quote marks;).

iaink Mar 3rd 2010 3:04 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by gibsonslanding (Post 8389403)

moaning about the olympics for starters! good lordy guys...one of the best shows on earth, fun, mostly free,.

Free? There is a $6Bn cost to build and host that someone has to pay for, and tickets for the events were far from free unless you happen to be the chairman of coca cola or some similar sponsoring multinational!

Someone told me the cheapest tickets for the hockey started at $800... not sure if thats true or not though. I do know they werent free though!

JonboyE Mar 3rd 2010 3:57 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8390613)
Free? There is a $6Bn cost to build and host that someone has to pay for,

Mostly sponsors and the TV networks via the IOC.


Someone told me the cheapest tickets for the hockey started at $800... not sure if thats true or not though. I do know they werent free though!
Not true.

iaink Mar 3rd 2010 4:21 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8390774)
Mostly sponsors and the TV networks via the IOC.

I dont think its nearly as clear cut as that!

Price Waterhouse Coopers

added up the incremental impact of the 2010 Vancouver Games and the incremental impact of the Vancouver Convention Centre. The totals vary with the measuring period from $6.1 billion in the period from 2008 to 2014 to $10.7 billion when the period is expanded to cover from 2002 to 2020.
TV and sponsorship income

Bell Canada committed $200 million and entered into a joint venture with Rogers Communications Inc. to acquire broadcast rights to both the 2010 Winter Games and the 2012 Summer Games in London for $153 million.

VANOC got other commitments as well: $110 million from RBC Financial Group that includes $70 million in cash, $62.5 million from Petro-Canada, $53 million from General Motors of Canada, and $100 million in goods and services including team and volunteer uniforms from Hudson’s Bay Company.

Thats about $600-700M

NBC paid $850M for broadcast rights,and I expect is the biggest bidder, just another $5 billion to find then...they probably have that down the back of the couch right?

The downturn killed the corporate sales, they had 75 $145k primo hospitality packages including tickets to all events, but they sold only 25, they had $285k corporate packages... I wonder how many of those they sold?


Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8390774)
Not true.

How much were hockey tickets by the way?

Simon Legree Mar 3rd 2010 4:56 am

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Just like the 1976 games in Montreal. According to the then mayor Jean Drapeau, they "could no more cost money than a man can have a baby". The tax payers will be footing the residual bill for the next 30 years.

ExKiwilass Mar 3rd 2010 6:33 am

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Oh, this is what she was talking about! :D ha.

rae Mar 3rd 2010 6:47 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by gibsonslanding (Post 8389403)
this'll be a good one....can't wait for the replies! give all you whinging, whinning, limey, poms and luddites something to real moan about....

i've not been on ex-pats for a long time and it appears to be for good reason! are your lives that dull and uninteresting, that all you've got left to do in life is to moan.....especially the lot who are fortunate enough to get to the point where alot of you would like to be....IN CANADA......

moaning about the olympics for starters! good lordy guys...one of the best shows on earth, fun, mostly free, happy un-troubled times, gold after gold, amazing weather, no bombs, a little light hearted drunkeness etc etc and all you can do is bemoan.....

bugger off back to the UK.....maybe the 2012 olympics is more up your street? yobs, booze, drugs...oh! bad sportsmanship to boot....

good luck.

ok, my initial thoughts were deleted. how about this person is a silly billy.

iaink Mar 3rd 2010 6:53 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 8391210)
ok, my initial thoughts were deleted. how about this person is a silly billy.

Its a personal attack aint it, even if its a bit like being licked to death by a St Bernard:rolleyes:


Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult or personal attack.

rae Mar 3rd 2010 7:17 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8391224)
Its a personal attack aint it, even if its a bit like being licked to death by a St Bernard:rolleyes:

not wishing to be pedantic, but if we are applying the rules really strictly should not the opening sentence of the o/p be struck out then??

"whinging, whinning, limey, poms and luddites"

iaink Mar 3rd 2010 7:26 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 8391275)
not wishing to be pedantic, but if we are applying the rules really strictly should not the opening sentence of the o/p be struck out then??

"whinging, whinning, limey, poms and luddites"

It didnt seem to be directed at any one named or implied individual, so its hard to see it as a direct personal attack, even if it was shit disturbing to some extent.

If I applied the rules stricktly there would be little left to read here I suspect, I mostly just dont want people name calling or picking fights with each other.

rae Mar 3rd 2010 7:37 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8391301)
It didnt seem to be directed at any one named or implied individual, so its hard to see it as a direct personal attack, even if it was shit disturbing to some extent.

If I applied the rules stricktly there would be little left to read here I suspect, I mostly just dont want people name calling or picking fights with each other.

without 'insult' OR personal attack, i think is the key bit.

like i say i'm not trying to be clever, its simply a case of either a more liberal interpretation of the rules, in which case these threads will appear and then the o/p should expect to receive what he gives, or they don't appear at all.
now i'm for the former, i agree with you, there will not be much left otherwise, but i would ask for some consistency thats all. what seems to happen is that some things are let go and others not so much, this can get a little confusing where it is only sometimes that the rules are strictly applied.

iaink Mar 3rd 2010 7:55 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 8391329)
without 'insult' OR personal attack, i think is the key bit.

like i say i'm not trying to be clever, its simply a case of either a more liberal interpretation of the rules, in which case these threads will appear and then the o/p should expect to receive what he gives, or they don't appear at all.
now i'm for the former, i agree with you, there will not be much left otherwise, but i would ask for some consistency thats all. what seems to happen is that some things are let go and others not so much, this can get a little confusing where it is only sometimes that the rules are strictly applied.

Rae, engage your brain, there is a difference between an untargeted general lashing out, and calling someone a tosser. Ive no wish to close every contentious thread on sight, and I dont read all the threads all the time, nor do I wish to, but if you think Im going to ignore it when you call someone a tosser if I see it, then you are mistaken.

Maybe we are not consistent, but hey, guess what, you get what you pay for, and we do the best we can. I think (hope) that by now most people on here know what to expect from us. Just go by the "Golden Rule", treat others as you would wish to be treated, and you wont go far wrong, save anything else for Facebook. I wouldnt wish to be called a tosser, so that's my moral reference in this sort of thing.

CanadaJimmy Mar 3rd 2010 7:57 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by gibsonslanding (Post 8389403)
this'll be a good one....can't wait for the replies! give all you whinging, whinning, limey, poms and luddites something to real moan about....

i've not been on ex-pats for a long time and it appears to be for good reason! are your lives that dull and uninteresting, that all you've got left to do in life is to moan.....especially the lot who are fortunate enough to get to the point where alot of you would like to be....IN CANADA......

moaning about the olympics for starters! good lordy guys...one of the best shows on earth, fun, mostly free, happy un-troubled times, gold after gold, amazing weather, no bombs, a little light hearted drunkeness etc etc and all you can do is bemoan.....

bugger off back to the UK.....maybe the 2012 olympics is more up your street? yobs, booze, drugs...oh! bad sportsmanship to boot....

good luck.

The thing is the people complaining are likely to be the ones on here the most, giving a disproportionate impression. I've been busy enjoying my new life so I only pop in from time to time!

Elizabeth I Mar 3rd 2010 8:07 am

Re: what's wrong with you lot?
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 8391275)
not wishing to be pedantic, but if we are applying the rules really strictly should not the opening sentence of the o/p be struck out then??

"whinging, whinning, limey, poms and luddites"



"whingeing pohm" was a real term of abuse and prejudice. My Dad emigrated to Australia in his mid twenties and said that term was used very derogatorily towards Brits (even if you weren't whingeing and obviously they weren't "pohms").

JonboyE Mar 3rd 2010 8:17 am

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Re Iaink's post # 19


:
added up the incremental impact of the 2010 Vancouver Games and the incremental impact of the Vancouver Convention Centre. The totals vary with the measuring period from $6.1 billion in the period from 2008 to 2014 to $10.7 billion when the period is expanded to cover from 2002 to 2020.
The figures you quote are for increased revenues as a result of the Olympic spending and infrastructure, not costs.

The BC Government originally budgeted $600m towards the games. This increased to $780m with the increased security costs. I guess we will find out sometime what the actual spend was. Whatever it was, the real question is what amount of the increased revenues sticks with the BC Government. Then it is possible to calculate if it was a good investment or not.

As for the hockey tickets, I don't have the exact prices to hand but they started under $100.


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