However I'm sure they are on an exponential curve upwards whereas ours hopefully is flattening out somewhat.

Well the view I take is that as almost half the worlds population lives in China which thanks largely to communism has been underdeveloped and China being the manufacturing base of the world (whats not mass manufactured elsewhere?) and with fair trade bolstering manufactures returns. Company profits will increase, Government taxes will increase, factory workers wages will increase, spending will increase etc, etc.
for example:
peasant farmer living in his hut earning $10/week suddenly gets $80/week now he wants electricity to run a 60w light bulb and a fridge (carbon emissions) and he decides to buy a moped (carbon emissions). Now multiply this by the population of peasant farmers who until now were carbon neutral.

Thats right, developed countries are aware of carbon emissions and have plans to reduce carbon footprint. Whereas developing countries (the new super powers) China & India will create more emissions than presently emitted.

Does this somehow justify your pootling around in a big arse truck? I mean enjoy it if you will but it's no more civilized then shitting on the dining table.

What an eloquently constructed post, open your eyes

I saw a great truck today. An old Dodge truck, all sharp square corners, with a huge rams head mascot on the bonnet.

Now if you are going to pollute the world unnecessarily then do it with redneck style.

I've just read through this thread as I can't believe there can be 8 pages just talking about what truck out of two to purchase.

There's a wopping amount of testosterone on this forum, and I want some.

I'd like a light turquoise truck, with red flames on the front and naked girlie on the side holding a Kalashnikov. I like RAM's,I could watch them all day in my rear view mirror, they're SSSOOO aggressive looking.

If you had asked HWP she would have sold you her truck before she left Calgary

DOH!!!

I see you and Gavin have completely missed the point. Well done. Are you saying that per capita CO2 emissions in China should be lower than in the US/Canada/UK? Why shouldn't each Chinese person be allowed to emit as much pollution as a Canadian?

sh*t -wasnt paying attention was I.

I will send you more karma as an apology

from their posts i gather its because they are not developed enough, and are communist to boot.

No didn't miss the point at all, just chose to ignore it. It's far better to stop it happening in the first place than to try and go back afterwards, just look at the issues the West has with halting the increase in emmissions let alone reducing them. China, it seems, have very little interest in doing anything about slowing their massive increases in emmissions and it's only going to get worse. As I said at least the West are talking about doing something positive, not dismissing the idea entirely.

What would be far better would be to have set standards for emmissions for manufacturing and vehicles accross all countries, same for human rights etc etc. Would you rather have each Chinese person emmitting the same as a Canadian?

Reducing emissions is very easy - it's just that no-one wants to. Driving smaller cars, taking fewer flights, eating less meat, etc. It's a lifestyle issue, not a technological one. You're just saying that people in the developing world shouldn't be allowed to aspire to the same lifestyles the rest of us enjoy.

You enjoy air travel?