What sucks about Canada?
Dec 20th 2009 | 5:04 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Offering advice as well as the negatives and positives about the costs of living and especially the distances between different areas of the country is what I find most new comers tend to under estimate. Halifax NS is closer to London UK than to Vancouver BC for example. The country is regionally and geographically diverse. Many of the laws/regulations are provincially based. The costs of housing vary greatly between provinces, within provinces and within the cities themselves.
There are no castles in Canada and there is not much in the way of older buildings and older architecture, the country is 142 years old, I think the queen of the UK is older than that. Stupid things like the audacity of Canada not to have British supermarkets or the fact that Canadians are not going to start doing things the way the newcomer wants them to do comes across as arrogant and will likely place that person in a position of not having many friends, there is a direct correlation between the two. Incessant whining about things being different wears thin fast. You are in a different country on a different continent, get over it.
From what I gather Tanja87, you are a German living in the UK, so I assume that you are well aware that different countries are different. Good luck with what you decide.
There are no castles in Canada and there is not much in the way of older buildings and older architecture, the country is 142 years old, I think the queen of the UK is older than that. Stupid things like the audacity of Canada not to have British supermarkets or the fact that Canadians are not going to start doing things the way the newcomer wants them to do comes across as arrogant and will likely place that person in a position of not having many friends, there is a direct correlation between the two. Incessant whining about things being different wears thin fast. You are in a different country on a different continent, get over it.
From what I gather Tanja87, you are a German living in the UK, so I assume that you are well aware that different countries are different. Good luck with what you decide.
In the first 6mths i must admit i was more uk friends, but now over 12mths later i have a big circle, inc our adopted family.
For our family we made the right choice.........
I must admit as well in those first few months i listened to others and so missed stuff from the uk, but after mixing more and getting used to the canadian way, i actually dont miss that much now
Houses here are cheaper than calgary and other areas, then there is the northside/southside/westside thing in town............
Houses are cheap on the northside of town and that is because its not as good as the southside and the schools are no way near what the southside are, also shopping is @@@@ as well
For the same house it is 50k different, big jump eh!!!
Like anything else, what sucks in NB,NS may not suck in ontario etc etc
LB
Dec 20th 2009 | 5:15 am
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Dec 20th 2009 | 6:40 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Ha ha 
yep, it's a funny old route we took.
We really like it here, but if we had looked harder, and my husband hadn't decided North America was the place to be I am sure we could have found somewhere we liked just as much in the UK. Immigrating is hard, you lose all your roots, and spend a huge amount of cash and effort. I don't regret it, but there have certainly been a lot of opportunity costs for us.
yep, it's a funny old route we took.We really like it here, but if we had looked harder, and my husband hadn't decided North America was the place to be I am sure we could have found somewhere we liked just as much in the UK. Immigrating is hard, you lose all your roots, and spend a huge amount of cash and effort. I don't regret it, but there have certainly been a lot of opportunity costs for us.
Dec 20th 2009 | 6:52 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
I wasn't responding to you, what I meant was that complaining about mundane things isn't going to change them, regardless of whether they are better or worse. It would be like me moving to the UK and complaining about maple syrup or moving to Italy and complaining about Italian supermarkets not having the same products that I buy in Canada and wanting the Italians to change their ways. I would imagine the locals would think I was a bit of an arse. Surely there are more important differences, but I digress, people are free to talk about whatever they wish, I just offer my $0.02
Last edited by Lord Vader; Dec 20th 2009 at 6:55 am.
Dec 20th 2009 | 6:56 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
I wasn't responding to you, what I meant was that complaining about mundane things isn't going to change them, regardless of whether they are better or worse. It would be like me moving to the UK and complaining about maple syrup or moving to Italy and complaining about Italian supermarkets not having the same products that I buy in Canada.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:01 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Ha ha yep, it's a funny old route we took.
We really like it here, but if we had looked harder, and my husband hadn't decided North America was the place to be I am sure we could have found somewhere we liked just as much in the UK. Immigrating is hard, you lose all your roots, and spend a huge amount of cash and effort. I don't regret it, but there have certainly been a lot of opportunity costs for us.
yep, it's a funny old route we took.We really like it here, but if we had looked harder, and my husband hadn't decided North America was the place to be I am sure we could have found somewhere we liked just as much in the UK. Immigrating is hard, you lose all your roots, and spend a huge amount of cash and effort. I don't regret it, but there have certainly been a lot of opportunity costs for us.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:07 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Offering advice as well as the negatives and positives about the costs of living and especially the distances between different areas of the country is what I find most new comers tend to under estimate. Halifax NS is closer to London UK than to Vancouver BC for example. The country is regionally and geographically diverse. Many of the laws/regulations are provincially based. The costs of housing vary greatly between provinces, within provinces and within the cities themselves.
If the Canadian landscape inspires you and that is a large part in why you're choosing Canada, my advice is to move to that very region you find most inspiring. Once settled into an area, you probably are not going to be visiting the other parts of Canada without a great sum of money or without sacrificing visits back home. With such little vacation time and domestic travel extraordinarily expensive, you probably won't venture beyond your immediate area in Canada. So if you're going to move to a rural area, that will be your corner of Canada to experience - choose wisely.
Another note: if you're living a rural lifestyle, public transit doesn't exist. And the nearest major town might have the basic shops, but it truly is the basic. Don't expect great choice or quality. Expect the basic. Coming from the UK or Europe, it won't be inspiring. But this will be your world from now on. This is Canadian rural living. Fashion doesn't exist - who has time for fashion when you live in the land of dressing for practicality? Nobody appreciates fashion unless you're in major Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver. Gourmet restaurants? Authentic ethnic cuisine? Who needs gourmet when you can have cheap bland food high in quantity.
I find most expats take for granted European/UK distances, where you can quickly and easily find yourself in some extraordinary city or town, or easily find yourself top quality shops, restaurants, etc. This isn't the case in Canada.
Also, where real estate is cheap in Canada, it's cheap for a reason. Half the battle is knowing why it's cheap (brutal climate, too isolated, few job opportunities, dull location, etc)
Last edited by Lychee; Dec 20th 2009 at 7:12 am.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:15 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
I wasn't responding to you, what I meant was that complaining about mundane things isn't going to change them, regardless of whether they are better or worse. It would be like me moving to the UK and complaining about maple syrup or moving to Italy and complaining about Italian supermarkets not having the same products that I buy in Canada and wanting the Italians to change their ways. I would imagine the locals would think I was a bit of an arse. Surely there are more important differences, but I digress, people are free to talk about whatever they wish, I just offer my $0.02
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:24 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Hope this helps mate.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:25 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
As a culture we can always find stuff to moan about. We could be on a luxury yacht cruising the Amalfi Coast, eating caviar, drinking champagne and shagging a top model and we'd still find something to moan about. Its what we do well, and unless it consumes your life, its a lot of fun.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:47 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
As a culture we can always find stuff to moan about. We could be on a luxury yacht cruising the Amalfi Coast, eating caviar, drinking champagne and shagging a top model and we'd still find something to moan about. Its what we do well, and unless it consumes your life, its a lot of fun.
Dec 20th 2009 | 7:57 am
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
I for one agree with this thread. It's a great reminder / warning to those of us with 'rose tinted glasses'.
I'm looking to move to Ontario in a few years and plan on a recce next year, this thread has highlighted alot of areas that i may not have even looked for originally. I dont know where i want to live but i know that creature comforts are a habit that will be hard for me and the wife to break.
Thank you for this thread, has helped me alot.
I'm looking to move to Ontario in a few years and plan on a recce next year, this thread has highlighted alot of areas that i may not have even looked for originally. I dont know where i want to live but i know that creature comforts are a habit that will be hard for me and the wife to break.
Thank you for this thread, has helped me alot.
Dec 20th 2009 | 12:11 pm
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Re: What sucks about Canada?
Excellent points!
If the Canadian landscape inspires you and that is a large part in why you're choosing Canada, my advice is to move to that very region you find most inspiring. Once settled into an area, you probably are not going to be visiting the other parts of Canada without a great sum of money or without sacrificing visits back home. With such little vacation time and domestic travel extraordinarily expensive, you probably won't venture beyond your immediate area in Canada. So if you're going to move to a rural area, that will be your corner of Canada to experience - choose wisely.
Another note: if you're living a rural lifestyle, public transit doesn't exist. And the nearest major town might have the basic shops, but it truly is the basic. Don't expect great choice or quality. Expect the basic. Coming from the UK or Europe, it won't be inspiring. But this will be your world from now on. This is Canadian rural living. Fashion doesn't exist - who has time for fashion when you live in the land of dressing for practicality? Nobody appreciates fashion unless you're in major Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver. Gourmet restaurants? Authentic ethnic cuisine? Who needs gourmet when you can have cheap bland food high in quantity.
I find most expats take for granted European/UK distances, where you can quickly and easily find yourself in some extraordinary city or town, or easily find yourself top quality shops, restaurants, etc. This isn't the case in Canada.
Also, where real estate is cheap in Canada, it's cheap for a reason. Half the battle is knowing why it's cheap (brutal climate, too isolated, few job opportunities, dull location, etc)
If the Canadian landscape inspires you and that is a large part in why you're choosing Canada, my advice is to move to that very region you find most inspiring. Once settled into an area, you probably are not going to be visiting the other parts of Canada without a great sum of money or without sacrificing visits back home. With such little vacation time and domestic travel extraordinarily expensive, you probably won't venture beyond your immediate area in Canada. So if you're going to move to a rural area, that will be your corner of Canada to experience - choose wisely.
Another note: if you're living a rural lifestyle, public transit doesn't exist. And the nearest major town might have the basic shops, but it truly is the basic. Don't expect great choice or quality. Expect the basic. Coming from the UK or Europe, it won't be inspiring. But this will be your world from now on. This is Canadian rural living. Fashion doesn't exist - who has time for fashion when you live in the land of dressing for practicality? Nobody appreciates fashion unless you're in major Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver. Gourmet restaurants? Authentic ethnic cuisine? Who needs gourmet when you can have cheap bland food high in quantity.
I find most expats take for granted European/UK distances, where you can quickly and easily find yourself in some extraordinary city or town, or easily find yourself top quality shops, restaurants, etc. This isn't the case in Canada.
Also, where real estate is cheap in Canada, it's cheap for a reason. Half the battle is knowing why it's cheap (brutal climate, too isolated, few job opportunities, dull location, etc)
I will now go back to watching "Ice Pilots" on History channel. Whoop
Dec 20th 2009 | 2:11 pm
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