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scrubbedexpat091 Feb 19th 2015 2:38 pm

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11570702)
Hmm - home visits for vaccinations.... In Canada.. I don't think that going to catch on. Maybe in the UK, where it would be "their right for a home/village visit".. Here not so much and quite rightly so. How does she get to the nearest shops?

Nobody is asking for a MD to drive around but regions without basic healthcare should have access to it and the government should offer some sort of transport for those who do not have means to do so.

Her town may very well have shops and basic needs and she is able to get around town and such, but not to a nearby town.

If we didn't have a car we would be SOL when it came several health related things as some things are not available locally, but we could get around town without a car if need be, but other then greyhound which can be pricey, there is no other option aside from friends, or hitchhiking to get out of town.

Cancer patients for example largely rely on volunteers to get to treatment, but some people still find it hard to get to Vancouver at times.

Luckily we have a local health unit who can provide vaccines.

I don't think anyone is asking for a doctor to drive around on their own time outside of office hours, but no reason the government can fund a basic health van to go to smaller towns/regions once or twice a month to meet with people.

Outside of major city's, healthcare can be quite limited for patients.

Stinkypup Feb 19th 2015 3:15 pm

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
But according to an assortment of the "Guys out East" where I live is in the back of beyond but people still manage somehow to get to appointments and get to the health unit. Of course there are exceptions, I get that but I'm not sure that there is enough cash in the system to deliver the services to the genuinely vulnerable however much they need it. I would absolutely agree with you that there are people who have problems accessing rural healthcare be-it getting family physicians, nurse care, and as you say access to vital services such as cancer care. Our population seem somehow to rally round so that hopefully the vast majority can get to GP , hospital and Health unit appointments although this may indeed not be so easy in the genuinely isolated rural backwaters

bats Feb 20th 2015 1:46 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11570702)
Hmm - home visits for vaccinations.... In Canada.. I don't think that going to catch on. Maybe in the UK, where it would be "their right for a home/village visit".. Here not so much and quite rightly so. How does she get to the nearest shops?

I was thinking more of a van that people visit. They would set up in the town or village and people go to them for the shots. MDs don't do shots, nurses do.

ExKiwilass Feb 20th 2015 2:29 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
do they not just offer them at pharmacies in supermarkets etc? That's what they do here.

Zoe Bell Feb 20th 2015 2:59 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
flu shots yes, others I don't think so

BristolUK Feb 20th 2015 3:57 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 11571106)
do they not just offer them at pharmacies in supermarkets etc? That's what they do here.


Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11571133)
flu shots yes, others I don't think so


Pharmacies are even advertising blood tests now.

Stinkypup Feb 20th 2015 6:59 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
Childhood vaccinations have a lot more variables than flu shots etc- I can't see this moving towards pharmacies any time soon which I think is a good thing- schedules are fairly tight and should be abided by fairly closely

Shirtback Feb 20th 2015 7:07 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 11570533)
Someone from a small town near here was asking how she could get her kids vaccinated. She has no GP, no means of getting to the Health Unit.


Originally Posted by bats (Post 11570642)
The health unit is a hours drive away. She says she has no transport and probably doesn't. She also seems, er, limited, basic. Maybe it's time for the health unit to have a van and drive around the villages.

It's a problem here too. A call to social services/nearest clinic/health unit might help find transportation options.

sharkus Feb 20th 2015 9:39 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11571133)
flu shots yes, others I don't think so

Never seen the other ones at Shoppers et al. Shame, as that is exactly what they should be doing.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 20th 2015 10:08 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 11571503)
Never seen the other ones at Shoppers et al. Shame, as that is exactly what they should be doing.

I know in BC they can do more then just flu shots, but no idea if measles is included, I know they can do shingles vaccine, can't find a list online of what they are allowed to do at the pharmacy.

scootb Feb 20th 2015 11:33 am

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
Always kept my kids up to date,especially as my brother had a kidney transplant and the anti rejection meds that he takes lowered his immune system.

Stinkypup Feb 20th 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11571533)
I know in BC they can do more then just flu shots, but no idea if measles is included, I know they can do shingles vaccine, can't find a list online of what they are allowed to do at the pharmacy.

They can indeed do Zostavax for shingles- at present that is about it. They cannot do childhood vaccs and nor I feel should they- The Health units hold records of childhood imms which is crucial as there are strict schedules to stick to. At least for now, pharmacists do not have an accurate central database to search for such information and I feel that Health Units are the best places to administer and log the information centrally. I get access to them is sometimes less than easy though.

foreigngirl Feb 20th 2015 1:59 pm

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 
Sorry, haven't read the other comments, but what I've noticed is that not vaccinating seems to be 'in fashion' at the moment. I have a 13-month old and all my mommy 'friends' have kids around the same age - the age when most vaccinations happen. Being a 'crunchy mom' is currently 'in' and crunchy moms tend not to vaccinate.

PS. We follow the standard vaccination schedule. I can't imagine not vaccinating my baby!

Stinkypup Feb 20th 2015 2:11 pm

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Good on you foreigngirl- general consensus goes with vaccinating. I deal with such moms and they have no evidence based reason not to vaccinate their babies. I feel that they should be compelled to vaccinate before school but even then it is too late to keep up herd immunity in the population and the innocent suffer. I look after the babies as their GP but I continue to advise their foolish parents to the correct thing. It isn't the baby's fault that their parents are so stupid.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 20th 2015 4:09 pm

Re: Vaccine/Measles etc
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11571607)
They can indeed do Zostavax for shingles- at present that is about it. They cannot do childhood vaccs and nor I feel should they- The Health units hold records of childhood imms which is crucial as there are strict schedules to stick to. At least for now, pharmacists do not have an accurate central database to search for such information and I feel that Health Units are the best places to administer and log the information centrally. I get access to them is sometimes less than easy though.

I agree with you. Public health vaccines should be done in a way where accurate records can be kept.


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