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Old Mar 4th 2008 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
Well it worked on me!!
I'm sure you'll not be the only one
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by Lees147
I can honestly say that i have never used the NHS for anything (except as a minor) and yet as a smoker and obviously as a tax payer i have paid into the heathcare more money than i would like to know without no actual service coming back to me so therefore i would use it for free if i ever went on holiday and needed it. Also yes i would use my parents address as residency just like i use it right now for my english bank accounts! The reason why i have these open is so i can pay back debts. But technically i'm not a resident in the UK so i'm not allowed bank accounts there.
You used the NHS indirectly as you lived in a society with good healthcare for all. You werent surrounded by disease. Your family will have accessed healthcare, they better health would have contributed to your well being. Public health departments. Preventative medicine. If you used private medicine then the majority of the training is done in the NHS.

All this will have contributed to the quality of your life so whether or not you turned up at the local GPs asking for a nicotine patch
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by daft batty
You used the NHS indirectly as you lived in a society with good healthcare for all. You werent surrounded by disease. Your family will have accessed healthcare, they better health would have contributed to your well being. Public health departments. Preventative medicine. If you used private medicine then the majority of the training is done in the NHS.

All this will have contributed to the quality of your life so whether or not you turned up at the local GPs asking for a nicotine patch
With that in mind i also paid for a bunch of hypocondriacs which go to the doctor for something as little as a cold. I haven't ever seen the doctor the last time I went was when i was 14 which was a staggering amount of time ago and other peoples 'health' have improved because of thier own tax deduction. In truth the NHS take more out of you than you personally will ever need. I haven't had any injections save what they gave me at birth + the measles jab when i was 10.

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Old Mar 4th 2008 | 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
Tell me please, is there a deduction on a paycheque in the UK that specifically states payment to or for the NHS?
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There isn't, it all comes out of general taxation.

The justification set out by the recent poster is so misguided it doesn't really bear commenting on. I am just so glad I no longer have to rub shoulders with the likes of them anymore
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by Lees147
In truth the NHS take more out of you than you personally will ever need. I haven't had any injections save what they gave me at birth + the measles jab when i was 10.
So where is the huge pile of excess money that is obviously floating around then

Have you never heard of the adage: "The many pay for the few"

I sincerely hope you never get old, or sick and become one of those you quite clearly resent.
 
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Default Re: Using the nhs when back in the UK

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
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There isn't, it all comes out of general taxation.

The justification set out by the recent poster is so misguided it doesn't really bear commenting on. I am just so glad I no longer have to rub shoulders with the likes of them anymore
You might not like my justification but you know what...It doesn't matter to me. If you, your wife or your family have an illness which is potentially life threatening then you would do whatever you could to ensure they will get the appropriate care. Now if Canada and the UK were on par with each other and it was within my means i would stay in Canada and get the healthcare provided here. If I have to go back to the UK to get it done then that is what i will do it is also what most of us will do if you are honest with yourselves.

Enough people use the NHS for this very reason even if they shouldn't be entitled to it so why wouldn't you do the same thing.

What I am talking about isn't to screw up the NHS it's to do the best for my family.
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by Lees147
What I am talking about isn't to screw up the NHS it's to do the best for my family.
So I assume that you will tell them you are no longer resident in the UK and pay the invoice they provide you with in due course. I see nothing wrong with that at all
 
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
Tell me please, is there a deduction on a paycheque in the UK that specifically states payment to or for the NHS?
No
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
So I assume that you will tell them you are no longer resident in the UK and pay the invoice they provide you with in due course. I see nothing wrong with that at all
But chances are lets say my wife had cancer i would need a job and live in England (for a while) therefore use the NHS legitimately right?
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by Lees147
With that in mind i also paid for a bunch of hypocondriacs which go to the doctor for something as little as a cold. I haven't ever seen the doctor the last time I went was when i was 14 which was a staggering amount of time ago and other peoples 'health' have improved because of thier own tax deduction. In truth the NHS take more out of you than you personally will ever need. I haven't had any injections save what they gave me at birth + the measles jab when i was 10.
You use the most services in health care in the last few years of your life, maybe 80%. Maybe your parents arent old and needing this yet.

Sheesh, why argue with someone as selfish as you.
 
Old Mar 4th 2008 | 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by Lees147

Enough people use the NHS for this very reason even if they shouldn't be entitled to it so why wouldn't you do the same thing.

What I am talking about isn't to screw up the NHS it's to do the best for my family.
But whilst you're looking after your own and using resources you aren't entitled to, you are putting someone's else's family in need and if you were that family, you would be screaming blue murder.

In fact, that's what you are doing because you are saying it's ok to behave selfishly because others abuse the system. That is why the system will fail eventually. Like taxes, it has to be the majority looking after the minority, not the other way round.

If only people behaved properly, everyone would benefit and taxes wouldn't be skyhigh.

You choose to live in a different country so take the rough with the smooth....creaming off the best from two places is just being selfish.
 
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You choose to live in a different country so take the rough with the smooth....creaming off the best from two places is just being selfish.
I would say the word selfish is being extremely generous a number of others spring to mind, leech being one of them.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
I would say the word selfish is being extremely generous a number of others spring to mind, leech being one of them.
I still pay English taxes the reason i am saying this is because i can see that if someone was in the position i described above i would not want them to have a 'moral dilema' when most of us on here have paid enough to get the benefits. If you can save a life of your loved one by going back to England after 1 year of living elsewhere why wouldn't you?
 
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I'm not as eloquent at putting things as most on this forum so i'll be my blunt normal self.

If you don't like the Canadian health system, stay in the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Lees147
I still pay English taxes the reason i am saying this is because i can see that if someone was in the position i described above i would not want them to have a 'moral dilema' when most of us on here have paid enough to get the benefits. If you can save a life of your loved one by going back to England after 1 year of living elsewhere why wouldn't you?
You have moved the goalposts. Earlier you were talking of money and how much you had put in and therefore were owed in healthcare. You ignored references that contributing to the greater good was part of paying taxes. You havent acknowledged that you have benefitted because others were healthier. What illnesses have you avoided because of immunisation, antibiotics etc??

Going back to collect prescriptions, register falsely with a GP, get healthcare services to suit you. Thats what you were saying.

You cant now try and take a stance of saving loved ones lives
 


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