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Old Sep 26th 2014 | 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
An "expert" on the radio said these kids get little battle training and thrown in at the deep end in the hope they get killed. Then they post pics of the Brit/Canadian ect who joined and gave their life.

Like a sick advert to radicalize western youths
Need to start educating kids about the perils of radicalism from a young age (early teens).
 
Old Sep 26th 2014 | 4:04 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Need to start educating kids about the perils of radicalism from a young age (early teens).
Or maybe just accept that some people have different views upon world events.

Which is preferable: the teenager that turns his back on his "countrymen" and chooses to fight against them or the teen that chooses to fight against his former "countryman" because he is told by his government to do so?

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Old Sep 26th 2014 | 4:06 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Need to start educating kids about the perils of radicalism from a young age (early teens).
Perhaps we also need to start educating our leaders about the perils of imperialism and trying to get their way through force.

Who remembers French Fries being mockingly renamed "Freedom Fries"?

Still, at least we can all laugh about it now...
 
Old Sep 26th 2014 | 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Or maybe just accept that some people have different views upon world events.

Which is preferable: the teenager that turns his back on his "countrymen" and chooses to fight against them or the teen that chooses to fight against his former "countryman" because he is told by his government to do so?
Ha ha. This wins the nonsense award for September.
 
Old Sep 26th 2014 | 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Perhaps we also need to start educating our leaders about the perils of imperialism and trying to get their way through force.

Who remembers French Fries being mockingly renamed "Freedom Fries"?

Still, at least we can all laugh about it now...
A very stupid term, even at the time. It was hard to educated Bush and Blair, they spoke to a higher power. However I think the majority in the UK were against Iraq 2, I certainly was, but we were overruled by irrational leaders. Only Robin Cook really took a serious stand on the matter.
 
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Belgium and Denmark have joined the coalition against ISIS in Iraq.

Denmark, Belgium Join Fight Against ISIS In Iraq
 
Old Sep 26th 2014 | 8:45 am
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Putin got the word about 2 weeks ago ISIL was going go liberate Chechnya but so far can only imagine fighters going the other way.
 
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Belgium and Denmark have joined the coalition against ISIS in Iraq.

Denmark, Belgium Join Fight Against ISIS In Iraq
That will make a world of difference then, them young jihadists will handing back there AK47's and kitchen knives and heading home to resume there shelf stacking careers in Croydon or wherever!
 
Old Sep 27th 2014 | 10:58 pm
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Even though they had retaken one neighbourhood after fierce fighting despite 4 days of air strikes against tanks and vehicles, Kurdish forces have been unable to dislodge IS from Ayn-al-Arab just over the Turkish border in Syria. Current news is showing another town where the front line is stagnant and they're yelling at each other across 80 yds of sand. Peshmerga commanders say they lack weapons required to advance. Looks to me like ISIL is winning so far, no real victories for coalition forces since the fight for Mosul Dam last month. As the men in black gain strength and numbers no-one on our side has been able to come up with an army of 300k or a half million well trained and equipped troops to stop them. Airstrikes that kill 4 or 5 enemy and cost $100,000 per body will defeat us before them. Arab coalition members concerned for their own security are hardly likely to send their own troops to Iraq and Syria and even if they could be persuaded defections would certainly be a problem.
At least the choices won't be difficult to make since negotiations with ISIL are out of the question and they aren't about to give up.

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Old Sep 29th 2014 | 1:58 pm
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ISIS writes messages in sand to taunt US bombers over Ryder Cup defeat
It has emerged that Islamic State fighters have resorted to making disparaging comments about the United States heavy Ryder Cup defeat this weekend. The messages written in the sand are said to be clearly visible on satellite images and include taunts such as ‘I hope your bombing is more accurate than your putting, LOL’; ‘’16 ½ – 11 ½ ROLF!’; and ‘Bubba Watson couldn’t hit a cow’s arse with a banjo’.

US military strategist Colonel Chuck Hansen believes that these new tactics show how successful the US bombing campaign has been ‘these cheap shots just prove how desperate they are. They’re running scared, we think that many of their fighters have gone to ground are probably hiding in bunkers. But we’ll get them, we’ve drafted in our Ryder Cup team to help, they seem to be experts at finding bunkers.’
 
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Seems the opposition parties don't want Canada to be involved from whats been on the news, but with more countries joining the fight, wouldn't it look bad on Canada's part if Canada doesn't help as well?
 
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Seems the opposition parties don't want Canada to be involved from whats been on the news, but with more countries joining the fight, wouldn't it look bad on Canada's part if Canada doesn't help as well?
Technically, Canada is not/will not be doing nothing against ISIL-the parties just seem to be wanting different degrees of involvement. Trudeau wants to focus on 'training of Iraqi forces, humanitarian aid, and assistance with refugees' while Harper appears to support more direct action. He has been very vague about what those steps would consist of, however, but according to CTV news, we should hear updates about it tomorrow.
 
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So far it really only is the Americans who have stepped up to the plate. They have made 300 air strikes vs 2 air strikes by Britain. Military targets.
 
Old Oct 2nd 2014 | 7:30 pm
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Seems the opposition parties don't want Canada to be involved from whats been on the news, but with more countries joining the fight, wouldn't it look bad on Canada's part if Canada doesn't help as well?
Nothing personal toward Canada but a 'symbolic' offer of support would be enough.

Unless you would like to provide the boots on the ground?, that would be terrific!
 
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Nothing personal toward Canada but a 'symbolic' offer of support would be enough.
Unless you would like to provide the boots on the ground?, that would be terrific!
We could send boots and possibly some other articles of kit, but other than our shakey old fighter-bombers and some more advisors for Iraq I doubt we'll send much (our $20 million humanitarian aid package will likely be increased). Ultrarunner's probably already there. Government scandal over soldiers with ptsd fired rather than treated means they'd be scared to commit troops because of potential embarrassment. The armed forces and the government was in denial far too long and quite a few returned soldiers commited suicide. The US could send it's soldiers back on tour after tour after tour because they take care of them (not denying it was hard though) but the Harper government doesn't have the credibility to do that.
edit: Now Turkey is in, and that will go further than anything Canada has. Look at the article on RT about Russia's 2 year old arms sales to Iraq - the $4.2 billion sale has a bit of everything but scads and scads of SAM's which ISIS would no doubt love to capture. The Turks authorised use of their property (there's a dandy airbase in southern Turkey) so all players (Australia now as well) will have somewhere to fly from.

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