UK election June 8
#76
Re: UK election June 8
There is no guarantee that there will be reduced trade with Europe though. I completely accept that the EU may wish to impose tariffs upon goods from the UK and I accept that the UK may wish to reciprocate. I get that Germany may wish to balk against such an idea and that other States will argue for it but, until the final outcome is known, I believe it is somewhat ridiculous to constantly raise the issue as most remainers appear to want to do.
#77
Re: UK election June 8
What percentage of the UK population actually did that though? As you are likely aware, people did all of that prior to 1992 and, I suggest, they will do so again.
I suggest that you go to someone that lost their job to a worker that was prepared to undercut their wage and argue to them that there was no "gain or reason" for brexit.
The irritation from things like rising food prices when we discover we don't have a farm labour force anymore hasn't even started yet (although considering that the age group biggest on ripping us away from our rights was the elderly, I do hope they enjoy the Tories' suggestion that retirees can pick asparagus and strawberries in the fields for agricultural minimum wage as a replacement. The quitlings deserve it).
#78
Re: UK election June 8
My bet is they can still do those things after Brexit, they just might have to fill in a few more forms.
#79
Re: UK election June 8
There is no guarantee that there will be reduced trade with Europe though. I completely accept that the EU may wish to impose tariffs upon goods from the UK and I accept that the UK may wish to reciprocate. I get that Germany may wish to balk against such an idea and that other States will argue for it but, until the final outcome is known, I believe it is somewhat ridiculous to constantly raise the issue as most remainers appear to want to do.
Remainers raise it as an issue, because the Brexiters are misleading the public on it. It's why most of business, academia and the central bank were against the economic argument.
Last edited by Shard; Apr 20th 2017 at 2:03 pm.
#80
Re: UK election June 8
Do you think, for example, if BC were to impose extra regulations, paperwork, and occasional tariffs for goods and services coming from Alberta, that there might be a scenario where the the interprovincial trade is actually higher, than under current circumstances? It does seem very very unlikely. Barriers reduce trade. And you can be certain that the French will do their part to ensure some form of barrier (tariff / non-tariff) will be effected between the EU and the UK.
Last edited by Oink; Apr 20th 2017 at 2:07 pm.
#83
Re: UK election June 8
Like the straight forward and highly flexible process of obtaining PR in Canada? You'd be surprised at how taking away freedom of movement affects individuals desire to try setting up life in a neighbouring country. Plenty of Europeans starting to pack up because they don't feel welcome or don't feel secure in the UK.
#84
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Re: UK election June 8
Britain's ruling class (MPs and senior bureaucrats) have been the sponsors of a goodly proportion of the world's "offshore" tax-havens, and the City of London itself has always been something of a tax-haven for non-residents. In actuality, the Cayman Islands has become to some degree a sort of super-London, over the decades.
#85
Re: UK election June 8
Not arguing Canada's trade strategy, just making the analogy that single markets work. Canada has resources to sell, there's a global market for that, Britain, not so much. Are we going to be selling machine tool to the Germans and Japanese? Wine to the French? Outside of services, in which we already have strong trading relationships, I don't see the the gap.
#86
Re: UK election June 8
Do you think, for example, if BC were to impose extra regulations, paperwork, and occasional tariffs for goods and services coming from Alberta, that there might be a scenario where the the interprovincial trade is actually higher, than under current circumstances? It does seem very very unlikely. Barriers reduce trade. And you can be certain that the French will do their part to ensure some form of barrier (tariff / non-tariff) will be effected between the EU and the UK.
Remainers raise it as an issue, because the Brexiters are misleading the public on it. It's why most of business, academia and the central bank were against the economic argument.
Remainers raise it as an issue, because the Brexiters are misleading the public on it. It's why most of business, academia and the central bank were against the economic argument.
#87
Re: UK election June 8
It should have happened before Article 50 was activated.
May will be hoping the 52% turn out in her favour.
I have a funny feeling this could blow up in her face. I dread to think what state the UK will be in by Christmas. It make's having President Orange Face or Prime Minister Selfie look a little better.
May will be hoping the 52% turn out in her favour.
I have a funny feeling this could blow up in her face. I dread to think what state the UK will be in by Christmas. It make's having President Orange Face or Prime Minister Selfie look a little better.
#88
Re: UK election June 8
Not arguing Canada's trade strategy, just making the analogy that single markets work. Canada has resources to sell, there's a global market for that, Britain, not so much. Are we going to be selling machine tool to the Germans and Japanese? Wine to the French? Outside of services, in which we already have strong trading relationships, I don't see the the gap.
I get that single markets work and, one assumes, it would benefit everyone if there were no tariffs imposed globally (although Canada would be f*&ked as it relies too much on tariffs to protect its own producers), but, real or imagined, enough people in the UK felt that immigration was out of control to believe that brexit was a good thing and, like Oink, I fail to see why regaining full sovereignty is a bad thing.
#89
Re: UK election June 8
Like the straight forward and highly flexible process of obtaining PR in Canada? You'd be surprised at how taking away freedom of movement affects individuals desire to try setting up life in a neighbouring country. Plenty of Europeans starting to pack up because they don't feel welcome or don't feel secure in the UK.p.
Last edited by Oink; Apr 20th 2017 at 2:33 pm.
#90
Re: UK election June 8
I'd like to see the Tories establish a precedent where the government will make no law prohibiting the freedom of speech. Wouldn't it be nice not be prosecuted for your political or religious beliefs.