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Old Jul 20th 2013, 1:20 pm
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... who would move to Florida!
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Old Jul 20th 2013, 1:26 pm
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Yeah but, he never made it. Does that count?
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Yeah but, he never made it. Does that count?
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Beyonce and hubby have now added their voice to the dissent about the Trayvon verdict, so perhaps the jury did get it wrong ?

The argument that seems to be getting peddled around is that "this would not have happened if a white boy were killed," rather than focussing on the specific events in the case.
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Originally Posted by Shard
Beyonce and hubby have now added their voice to the dissent about the Trayvon verdict, so perhaps the jury did get it wrong ?

The argument that seems to be getting peddled around is that "this would not have happened if a white boy were killed," rather than focussing on the specific events in the case.
Exactly! It is what it is....To change the verdict IMHO, you would have needed to change the law....
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Let the people of Sanford, Florida tell you differently.. They think nothing is wrong with that law.. People don't understand or don't want to understand what the protest were about
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Originally Posted by Shard
Beyonce and hubby have now added their voice to the dissent about the Trayvon verdict, so perhaps the jury did get it wrong ?

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I'm reserving judgement 'till Kanye West and Kim Kardisian come out with their take on it.
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Basically it all boils down an guy patrolling the streets with a gun who wasn't law enforcement. You take that gun away from him and he's just someone looking from behind the curtains.
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Originally Posted by bats
I haven't met any black snowbirds, have you? Mind you in this area there aren't many people who aren't white so it's hard for me to judge!
But I really am not so sure that I can bear this....it isn't right, can all of Canada live in a state of ? This is the future isn't it. Just some sort of apethetic dream?
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I haven't met any black snowbirds, have you? Mind you in this area there aren't many people who aren't white so it's hard for me to judge!
I don't think there are black snowbirds because entrenched racism in Canada means that it's only very recently that any non-white people in Canada have reached retirement age at the level of affluence required to support multiple homes. It may well be that rich black Canadians wouldn't choose to winter in the slave owning States but, really, the number of rich black retired Canadians is such that we could just ask him where he chooses to go.
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Originally Posted by MillieF
but the fact that the same rule has been used to imprison a black woman for 20 years
What rule was that?

Please ensure accuracy.
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Originally Posted by cjones
I'm reserving judgement 'till Kanye West and Kim Kardisian come out with their take on it.
I suppose that would be the learned approach, yes...

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Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't think there are black snowbirds because entrenched racism in Canada means that it's only very recently that any non-white people in Canada have reached retirement age at the level of affluence required to support multiple homes. It may well be that rich black Canadians wouldn't choose to winter in the slave owning States but, really, the number of rich black retired Canadians is such that we could just ask him where he chooses to go.
How, DBD, do you get away with saying s**t like that
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She shot at a wall, to try to get him to leave. Women usually need a weapon to defend themselves effectively especially against an abusive partner , it becomes rather more complicated than your portrayal.

Zimmerman caused the incident that led to Martin's death. He may be innocent in law but he is morally guilty. Stand your ground does not apply when you cause the interaction. I think that was how it was described.
Why did she leave to get the gun and come back and shoot. Could she not have called the police when she went out?

Trayvon used a racial slur referring to Zimmerman. Zimmerman doesn't even mention he's black initially until specifically asked by the police. The photos of Trayvon all show him a little 10 year old rather than muscular 17 year old which creates a somewhat misleading impression.
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Why did she leave to get the gun and come back and shoot. Could she not have called the police when she went out?



Trayvon used a racial slur referring to Zimmerman. Zimmerman doesn't even mention he's black initially until specifically asked by the police. The photos of Trayvon all show him a little 10 year old rather than muscular 17 year old which creates a somewhat misleading impression.
Zimmerman followed him, got out of his car to do so. Antagonised him. It doesn't matter whether he was frail or muscular, he was targeted by Zimmerman.

Abused women behave differently, look it up.
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