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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 10647268)
Except her friends in the media - knighthood for the editor of The Sun FFS - were always frightening people about the red menace, the enemy within etc to the extent that many people seriously believed that the alternative involved handing power over to The Kremlin.
I remember reports about a Scargill speech receiving "soviet style" applause from the clapping audience. :blink: Rubbish like this, pictures of Tony Benn looking mad, talk of bogeymen "seizing power" (by winning a vote, just like Thatcher) was so common that enough people to make a difference took it all on board. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by ArthurBrit
(Post 10646599)
Not entirely accurate, some of the industries she broke apart are now costing the country a lot more money. The railways are a prime example, the Brits spend/spent more on Railtrack and Network rail than they ever did for British rail.
It's playing the numbers game 'these plants that had 1000's of workers all paying taxes are losing money, lets make them unemployed and pay them to sit on the dole and not reclaim any tax' add these costs together and was it truly losing the government money? Even if it broke even what would you rather, produce for a negative return or not produce for negative return? |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by mdizzle
(Post 10646966)
Also RIP to all those who lost their lives on the Belgrano.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by orly
(Post 10647322)
The privatisation of BR was under John Major's government as far as I'm aware.
British Rail had many subsidiaries, if you remember they actually used to make pretty much everything that was on their network whether that was the rolling stock or the rails themselves, many of these operations were shutdown during the Thatcher years the name change may have been done by Major but it was well and truly demolished by the time Major was in charge. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths
(Post 10647276)
Yet another reason to mourn her passing with a national holiday.
What people forget about Maggie is that not only was she a great politician but a great character actress too. I'll never forget her portrayal of Zelda in Terrahawks. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by ArthurBrit
(Post 10647334)
It was but the ball started rolling through Thatcher.
British Rail had many subsidiaries, if you remember they actually used to make pretty much everything that was on their network whether that was the rolling stock or the rails themselves, many of these operations were shutdown during the Thatcher years the name change may have been done by Major but it was well and truly demolished by the time Major was in charge. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 10647205)
But the first six months you were waiting for them to be invented.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 10647361)
It was a relief then to have a labour government for 13 years or so to put right the damage done by Mrs T in her 11 years as PM.
Saying that I feel that in most of her political career she was caught in the wrong mentallity of fix things for today and let's not worry about the future. Why would you sell something like the railway which is essential to the UK economy without having a long term realistic plan. All we did is balance our books but ended up re-investing far more into the system than we would have ended up paying if we continued to run it how it was. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 10646606)
As the left will continually tell you: It's all Thatcher's fault!
No matter what 'it' might be. Back in the real world, Britain was socially and economically bankrupt at the end of the 70s, which is the only reason people were willing to turn their back on hard-left Labour and wet-left Tories and elect someone who was capable of turning the country around. If they hadn't, I'd have joined the brain drain as soon as I finished university. Thatcher had plenty of faults, but she was the only post-WWII politician who was worth a damn. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by luvmeboys
(Post 10646825)
:thumbup: now that was a monster!
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by dg31
(Post 10646841)
A cooper's life is usually a barrel of laughs.
Sorry. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by YoshiPal2010
(Post 10647417)
Thatcher and Reagan's, predeliction...
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
(Post 10647059)
I don't, but then I didn't understand all the fuss about Diana dying, and out of choice wouldn't have paid for her to have a state funeral either. Neither warrant one imo.
Maggie is not getting a state funeral anyway so it's a moot point. J |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by IJ157
(Post 10647420)
Most idiotic comment in this thread. And that is saying something!
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Re: Thatcher dies
You knew she would eventually go, but I don't think any of us wanted to see her go this way... personally, I always had my heart set on an assassination.
(To paraphrase Frank Skinner after her resignation.) |
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