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mdizzle Apr 11th 2013 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by London-England-Lads (Post 10653859)
What is rule 2 ? I watched it and just could not work out if it was parody or high art ?

R

High art.

Surely any time anyone links a YouTube video ever then the post should be deleted as there's unfiltered swearwords in about every single comments section? Also my other post was deleted and other people went on to say pretty much exactly the same thing and yet no action was taken. Seems harsh.

christmasoompa Apr 11th 2013 5:08 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10653922)
Surely any time anyone links a YouTube video ever then the post should be deleted as there's unfiltered swearwords in about every single comments section?

If they're seen and do contain swearwords as prominently as the one you linked to (which wasn't in the comment section, it was across half the screen), then yes, they would be.


Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10653922)
Also my other post was deleted and other people went on to say pretty much exactly the same thing and yet no action was taken. Seems harsh.

Perhaps their posts weren't reported and yours was? We don't look at every thread or post I'm afraid.

jimf Apr 11th 2013 7:27 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10653350)
It is true that my children have inherited the couplet, whenever anything at all goes wrong,

"You know who I blame?"

"The Thatcher guvment"

Over the years TTG has been deemed responsible for numerous thumb/hammer incidents, failed interviews and vehicular collisions. Still, I think there's probably some absolute limit to the extent of wrongdoing, only so evil a person can be; it won't hurt Thatcher's karma if she's wrongly held accountable for some suffering she didn't cause.

Well if there's no all powerful deity you believe in to blame for unpleasant aspects of life and incidents in the last 30 years or so, blaming Mrs T. could well be the next best thing. It's certainly no less logical.

danfolkestone Apr 13th 2013 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by ArthurBrit (Post 10646599)
Not entirely accurate, some of the industries she broke apart are now costing the country a lot more money. The railways are a prime example, the Brits spend/spent more on Railtrack and Network rail than they ever did for British rail.

This is an excellent example of those on the left wrongly blaming Maggie for all the world's ills. British Rail was privatised in 1993, three years after she left office. She had personally intervened to prevent privatisation during her term in office, describing it as "a privatisation too far."

Most privatised industries have switched from taking taxpayer subsidies to paying considerable taxes to the treasury since privatisation. That actually understates the benefits of privatisation though. My recollection of using the telephone in the 1980s was regular crossed lines and getting cut off. Power cuts were ridiculously frequent. The trains were over 50 years old, slow and unreliable. Privatisation enabled these industries and others to obtain funds for investment that transformed them in a way that publicly owned businesses could never have achieved.

MarkG Apr 13th 2013 5:25 pm

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Originally Posted by danfolkestone (Post 10657725)
This is an excellent example of those on the left wrongly blaming Maggie for all the world's ills. British Rail was privatised in 1993, three years after she left office. She had personally intervened to prevent privatisation during her term in office, describing it as "a privatisation too far."

And the half-arsed mechanism where rail companies couldn't own the railway lines they operate over was forced on them by EU rules.

I suspect the big problem with railway privatisation was that many of the railways must have been worth more as land than operating railways, so if they had really been privatised they'd have been ripped up and blocks of 'executive apartments' built where they used to be.

jimf Apr 14th 2013 5:17 am

Re: Thatcher dies
 

Originally Posted by danfolkestone (Post 10657725)
This is an excellent example of those on the left wrongly blaming Maggie for all the world's ills. British Rail was privatised in 1993, three years after she left office. She had personally intervened to prevent privatisation during her term in office, describing it as "a privatisation too far."

Most privatised industries have switched from taking taxpayer subsidies to paying considerable taxes to the treasury since privatisation. That actually understates the benefits of privatisation though. My recollection of using the telephone in the 1980s was regular crossed lines and getting cut off. Power cuts were ridiculously frequent. The trains were over 50 years old, slow and unreliable. Privatisation enabled these industries and others to obtain funds for investment that transformed them in a way that publicly owned businesses could never have achieved.

On the railways Mrs T. commissioned a report the conclusion of which more or less said shut down everything except services between the major cities. This wasn't acted on.

I think the present situation is summarized quite well by the last paragraph of the article on pages 14 and 15:

http://www.railpro.co.uk/magazine/ar...ct05master.pdf

At least such confusion shows that neither the ‘invisible hand’ nor the ‘public ownership’ brigades will advance their respective causes much by trying to prove where the rail industry’s money has vanished over the last 10 years. Meanwhile, Britain’s current, curiously-hybrid, private-public rail network will continue to muddle through, leaving us wondering whether we’re experiencing the worst of bothworlds and the best of none.

I watched a programme on the Beeching report presented by Ian Hislop the other day. Apparently the Transport Minister at the time had road building connections...... Nevertheless, the report was published in 1963 and the labour manifesto in 1964 stated they would stop/reverse the cuts. There was a labour government from 64-70, they did a u turn and most of the cuts were implemented during this period. Since 1972 the network has been pretty much unchanged.

mdizzle Apr 16th 2013 10:14 pm

Re: Thatcher dies
 
Mark Thatcher must have made a fortune out of this funeral, there's guns everywhere you look.

dollface Apr 17th 2013 12:09 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10663863)
Mark Thatcher must have made a fortune out of this funeral, there's guns everywhere you look.

How juvenile.

mdizzle Apr 17th 2013 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by dollface (Post 10664023)
How juvenile.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incomin...rne-crying.jpg

dollface Apr 17th 2013 5:22 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10664118)

Epic :rolleyes:

Thanks for the Karma earlier, justs adds to my capitalistic, Tory piles of dosh:lol:

mdizzle Apr 17th 2013 5:31 am

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Originally Posted by dollface (Post 10664637)
Epic :rolleyes:

Thanks for the Karma earlier, justs adds to my capitalistic, Tory piles of dosh:lol:

It was more a redistribution of wealth type of thing. The rich giving to the poor. ;)

dollface Apr 17th 2013 5:34 am

Re: Thatcher dies
 

Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10664650)
It was more a redistribution of wealth type of thing. The rich giving to the poor. ;)

;) I'll take it! as Billy Connolly once said "Don't feel sorry for me, i'm loaded!" :sneaky:


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