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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by London-England-Lads
(Post 10653859)
What is rule 2 ? I watched it and just could not work out if it was parody or high art ?
R Surely any time anyone links a YouTube video ever then the post should be deleted as there's unfiltered swearwords in about every single comments section? Also my other post was deleted and other people went on to say pretty much exactly the same thing and yet no action was taken. Seems harsh. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by mdizzle
(Post 10653922)
Surely any time anyone links a YouTube video ever then the post should be deleted as there's unfiltered swearwords in about every single comments section?
Originally Posted by mdizzle
(Post 10653922)
Also my other post was deleted and other people went on to say pretty much exactly the same thing and yet no action was taken. Seems harsh.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10653350)
It is true that my children have inherited the couplet, whenever anything at all goes wrong,
"You know who I blame?" "The Thatcher guvment" Over the years TTG has been deemed responsible for numerous thumb/hammer incidents, failed interviews and vehicular collisions. Still, I think there's probably some absolute limit to the extent of wrongdoing, only so evil a person can be; it won't hurt Thatcher's karma if she's wrongly held accountable for some suffering she didn't cause. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by ArthurBrit
(Post 10646599)
Not entirely accurate, some of the industries she broke apart are now costing the country a lot more money. The railways are a prime example, the Brits spend/spent more on Railtrack and Network rail than they ever did for British rail.
Most privatised industries have switched from taking taxpayer subsidies to paying considerable taxes to the treasury since privatisation. That actually understates the benefits of privatisation though. My recollection of using the telephone in the 1980s was regular crossed lines and getting cut off. Power cuts were ridiculously frequent. The trains were over 50 years old, slow and unreliable. Privatisation enabled these industries and others to obtain funds for investment that transformed them in a way that publicly owned businesses could never have achieved. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by danfolkestone
(Post 10657725)
This is an excellent example of those on the left wrongly blaming Maggie for all the world's ills. British Rail was privatised in 1993, three years after she left office. She had personally intervened to prevent privatisation during her term in office, describing it as "a privatisation too far."
I suspect the big problem with railway privatisation was that many of the railways must have been worth more as land than operating railways, so if they had really been privatised they'd have been ripped up and blocks of 'executive apartments' built where they used to be. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by danfolkestone
(Post 10657725)
This is an excellent example of those on the left wrongly blaming Maggie for all the world's ills. British Rail was privatised in 1993, three years after she left office. She had personally intervened to prevent privatisation during her term in office, describing it as "a privatisation too far."
Most privatised industries have switched from taking taxpayer subsidies to paying considerable taxes to the treasury since privatisation. That actually understates the benefits of privatisation though. My recollection of using the telephone in the 1980s was regular crossed lines and getting cut off. Power cuts were ridiculously frequent. The trains were over 50 years old, slow and unreliable. Privatisation enabled these industries and others to obtain funds for investment that transformed them in a way that publicly owned businesses could never have achieved. I think the present situation is summarized quite well by the last paragraph of the article on pages 14 and 15: http://www.railpro.co.uk/magazine/ar...ct05master.pdf At least such confusion shows that neither the ‘invisible hand’ nor the ‘public ownership’ brigades will advance their respective causes much by trying to prove where the rail industry’s money has vanished over the last 10 years. Meanwhile, Britain’s current, curiously-hybrid, private-public rail network will continue to muddle through, leaving us wondering whether we’re experiencing the worst of bothworlds and the best of none. I watched a programme on the Beeching report presented by Ian Hislop the other day. Apparently the Transport Minister at the time had road building connections...... Nevertheless, the report was published in 1963 and the labour manifesto in 1964 stated they would stop/reverse the cuts. There was a labour government from 64-70, they did a u turn and most of the cuts were implemented during this period. Since 1972 the network has been pretty much unchanged. |
Re: Thatcher dies
Mark Thatcher must have made a fortune out of this funeral, there's guns everywhere you look.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by mdizzle
(Post 10663863)
Mark Thatcher must have made a fortune out of this funeral, there's guns everywhere you look.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by dollface
(Post 10664023)
How juvenile.
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Re: Thatcher dies
Thanks for the Karma earlier, justs adds to my capitalistic, Tory piles of dosh:lol: |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by dollface
(Post 10664637)
Epic :rolleyes:
Thanks for the Karma earlier, justs adds to my capitalistic, Tory piles of dosh:lol: |
Re: Thatcher dies
Originally Posted by mdizzle
(Post 10664650)
It was more a redistribution of wealth type of thing. The rich giving to the poor. ;)
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