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Possibly because sight of it was avoided in order to claim no personal knowledge.


Did Britain know of the peace proposals? Cecil Parkinson Chairman of the Conservative Party was interviewed on Panorama (19.4.84): ‘Pressed by Emery, Mr Parkinson let the cat out of the bag. “Yes” he said, “we knew all about peace proposals that Saturday morning, primarily those of President Belaunde.” And when I had the opportunity of pressing Cranley Onslow, then minister of State at the Foreign Office, he said “Well the Foreign Office knew all about the peace proposals on the Sunday morning.”’ (Dalyell, p. 32).

James Prior in his memoirs A Balance of Power wrote that accepting the Peruvian peace plan would have split the Conservative Party: ‘If the Peruvian plan, or UN plan, or Haig plan had been agreed and a negotiated settlement ensued in early May, there would have been a wholesale revolt among Conservative backbenchers with up to 60 members revolting and I think up to 30 refusing the government whip. Now bearing in mind that the Conservative majority at that time was only 35, then Prior is saying that his opinion is that the government would have fallen if it had tried to go for a negotiated settlement’. (Paul Rogers, p.111).

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I don't know why so many people around the world are getting in such a knot over her death. She won't (can't) give a damn, Dennis has also croaked.

Too many people are getting into arguments and debates over something that at the end of the day will make not a do of difference to anyone or anything. What is done is done and the world still keeps on spinning.

Al this has really shown is what a significant role she played and what an extra ordinary person she was, whehter one liked what she did or not.

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See also Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot and, for that matter Jeffrey Dahlmer. To be extraordinary and disliked is not necessarily a cause for celebration.

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Obviously Mrs T. is a convenient scapegoat, for anyone who doesn't like any aspect of life in the last 30 years or so, to latch onto. It's natural enough for people need someone to blame and, other than the Queen, she's probably been the highest profile public figure during that period.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...d-history.html

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Gordon "prudent" Brown undid Britain.

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It is true that my children have inherited the couplet, whenever anything at all goes wrong,

"You know who I blame?"

"The Thatcher guvment"

Over the years TTG has been deemed responsible for numerous thumb/hammer incidents, failed interviews and vehicular collisions. Still, I think there's probably some absolute limit to the extent of wrongdoing, only so evil a person can be; it won't hurt Thatcher's karma if she's wrongly held accountable for some suffering she didn't cause.

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+1 Surprisingly good.

Also appears in le Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...garet-thatcher

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I will ignore the personal attack. I don't have all day to search for every single article written about an incident that was the subject of an inquiry.

Is it your position that the commander of the sub knew of any offers that had been made; was he concerned about whether members of the Tory party would revolt?

I get that you don't agree with the position she took. I simply point you to the fact that those affected by the decision far more than you were agree that it was an appropriate decision.

Re: Thatcher dies - Judy Garland No. 1
 

OMG

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What is rule 2 ? I watched it and just could not work out if it was parody or high art ?

R

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What personal attack? I was referring to politicians who get told of something but deliberately don't "see" it so they can deny knowledge.

You don't need all day to search. One just needs an awareness of the fact that all these things were well covered by news media as each damning bit of information was revealed.

You know, a bit like those media covered events referred to that happened in the 80s.

You don't need to sneer just because I remember them and consequently I am able to quickly find some appropriate references.

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Gosh this thread divides BE.COM as it has the UK. Loved last night's Evening Standard. It said how they were going to send from the Falklands a line of honour. I so wanted it to be a line of Penguins or people dressed as Penguins.

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Swearing etc. The bloke on camera was fine, it was all the comments next to it that was the problem - we have filters on BE to get rid of all the f & c words, but that clearly didn't! :lol: