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Totally agree with these 2, Douglas Bader in particular has been a hero of mine since I was a teenager, about the same time too for Ben Hogan, as thats when I was at my golfing best.

Both their Biographies are well worth reading.

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But when does that kick in? Is it with being an anorexic or just being slim? Most "supermodels" will still have a BMI within the acceptable range.

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Madrid fashion week or some other such thing insist on models having a BMI of at least 18 (still low) recently, and 30% of the prospective participants failed to meet that standard.

I read somewhere that a lot of the top female distance runners no longer have periods, so something is messing with their hormones, and they are not likely to have eating disorders...Osteoprosis is presumably something you store up for your later years. I doubt there is a definitive healthy/ unhealthy boundary when these things "kick in", just as there is no point where its guaranteed a fat bugger will keel over from a heart attack, although there are some sound statistical markers in the case of Obesity. As thats a bigger issue (no pun intended), its probably been studied a lot more. There is a lot to be said for the "all things in moderation" school of life.

Ive no problem with people being thin, if thats your natural state, but its a concern (having two daughters) that there is so much obsession about being thin, to the point that so many young women are actively harming themselves to reach a size and shape that is at the very far end of natures bell curve. What was that old body shop campaign, 3 Billion women on the planet and only 8 of them are supermodels?

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Obsession indeed.
I have often noticed that it seems more acceptable to pass comment on peoples weight if they are slim, rather than if they are overweight. Comments such as 'oh my god you are so skinny' are just as hurtful & inappropriate as 'lay off the pies fatty'. It's so sad that we are judged on our size & shape.

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So is Feynmans... Surely you are joking Mr Feynman is an excellent introduction to the man and the way he thought...and largely free of scary Physics stuff.

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usually kicks in from BMI of about 18 (healthy is 20 to 23 ish)

most supermodels are way below that - 16 or less and yes that 2 point difference is a lot at that level.

Also to maintain that size they often resort to diuretics, laxatives, throwing up, drugs - all of which take atoll on the body.

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Why is it that men do that....a couple of comments here about people prefering such and such a size, or "shes too skinny"

Who cares. I want my daughters to be appreciated by a man for their intelligence, compassion, sense of humour, personality, not because they will be 6' blondes with nice racks:mad:

I am reminded of a bit from the blue collar comedy tour movie where one of the guys takes his daughters beau to one side and says "Listen....Im not afraid to go back to jail...."

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Just on a practical consideration, how many super/ regular models are silicone enhanced I wonder, and how exactly does the BMI compensate for... unnatural? weight.

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Isn't it widely accepted that men as a species are more 'visually' stimuated than women?

I wonder if men would prefer a larger lady with, er, an ample bosom to a slimmer one with a 'handful is enough' scenario.
Or would they ultimately be dissatisfied with both?!

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Theres no reason we should all be "visually stimulated" by the same sort of thing though:confused:
Depends..... Which one "puts out" more:D

Yes, Im aware of how hypocritical that is.

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I personally think these things go round in cycles.
It's currently trendy & desirable to have a tan (read: be orange out of a bottle). Back in Victorian times to be tanned was an indication of poverty/lower social standing and therefore not such a desirable feature.

I remember reading that men in some African countries desire their women to be as big as possible. To be skinny is unattractive to them. Perhaps again indicitive of poverty and/or poor health.

I might have known that would be the answer :rolleyes:

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We as parents need to teach our kids to "love themselves", no matter the race, colour or creed! Learning to love and accept yourself for who and what you are will ensure that they are secure within themselves, and become responsible adults!

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Some new sort of man under development is there?

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Me too! Dont want too much junk in the trunk!!!

should I duck a lot?

Megan Fox, Jessica Alba - this is what looks good ;)

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This is something teenage boys don't need lessons in.