Originally Posted by Posidrive

I would indeed prefer that we all went down to the nearest organic retailer and put the factory farmers out of business. Sadly the economics of food production will never make this viable. I would however prefer that once the unfortunate battery animals have been killed that they are at least eaten rather than discarded due to the excesses of North American food consumerism. Some Canadians may very well eat what they kill, but can you find one who has not enjoyed the process of killing the animal, be it the hunt or the act of pulling the trigger itself? There is plenty of affordable food available through other means, so this is not necessery.

Originally Posted by MikeUK

Significantly safer than some of the parasites and diseases you'll run across in the wild
Antibiotics in food maybe aren't as ideal as food without them, but it’s still safer than the food with the bugs that the antibiotics were there to stop

Just consider the data that suggest that organic foods is measurably riskier in terms of food poisoning than industrial farmed foods, it become a toss up between pesticides or bugs but at least both need to meet minimum food hygiene standards, the few hunters I know have very little understanding or awareness in this area and as a result I don’t eat the meat they’ll so willing offer up
I'm dam sure very few hunted animals are butchered in a safe hygienic way

Originally Posted by Posidrive

I still stand by what I called the guy who shot the bear.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

Where the heck do you think organic food comes from? It comes from organic farmers who sell it to the retailer.

So what's your point? It didn't say that I thought it came from anywhere else. I don't care who actually sells it as long as the farming has been as "organic" as possible

I suggest watching the video again! I didn't see anyone fire a shot.

I have absolutely no intention of watching a video in which a high power gun is pointed at a bear or any other defenceless animal, regardless of whether or not the bear is actually shot. It was quite a reasonable assumptions that, since Billy Bob in the video was dressed the part, that he would actually shoot the bear. If he just sat there and pointed it at the bear then he really needs to get out more and spend some time with girls other than his sister.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

I suggest watching the video again! I didn't see anyone fire a shot.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

I fail to appreciate his "nerve". He had a high powered rifle and the bear didn't know he was there. Had he been unarmed, I might agree with you.

Originally Posted by Lord Vader

Think of jumping out of an airplane with a parachute or bungy jumping with a cord around your feet. You also underestimate how quick bears are. The bear smelled the air right before it walked over and looked right at him but it was a young animal and that is why it lived. You would have brown underwear.

Originally Posted by Posidrive

I have absolutely no intention of watching a video in which a high power gun is pointed at a bear or any other defenceless animal, regardless of whether or not the bear is actually shot. It was quite a reasonable assumptions that, since Billy Bob in the video was dressed the part, that he would actually shoot the bear. If he just sat there and pointed it at the bear then he really needs to get out more and spend some time with girls other than his sister.

As you can tell, I just don't get it.

Originally Posted by Flogger

I'm glad you said that.I thought it was just me
Watched it twice,thought I was missing something.

Originally Posted by Kiwilass

I don't have a problem with hunting. But then, I grew up in a house with a hunting rifle under the bed, and with a father who regularly went on hunting trips with mates (and sometimes took me along).

Hunting is necessary in NZ because we have so many pests that destroy native birds and flora. I know less about it in Canada, but my feeling is that most hunters I've known have more respect for the animals that die to give us meat/clothes/etc. than your average person toddling off to the supermarket to by a cling-wrapped piece of chicken.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

I take it you didn't watch the video before you twice said the bear had been shot. Of course Billy Bob was dresses in camo, one is hardly likely to stalk an animal dressed like Bruno. Google 'Don't assume' and you'll find a good explanation.

Of course you don't get it, but at least watch whatever you're making negative comments on first.



I had to watch it again too, as Posidrive twice insisted the bear had been shot. Now he tells us he didn't watch it after all.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

I have parachuted (HALO) and bungie jumped. I have also shot at things that were shooting at me and managed all without soiling my underwear.

If the bear was a grizzly, I might have agreed with you. People have been known to kill black bears with their bare hands and, if you have ventured into the wild over here, you must be aware that the recommended course of action to take when attacked by a black bear is to fight back. A black bear is much more likely to run away than it is to fight. That's why I made the comments I made above.

Originally Posted by Posidrive

Firstly I had no desire to watch an animal being killed which was the implication of the post with the video clip and the reality was not made any clearer by the text in the post. OK, I apologise for making assumptions, but gun plus bear in an image makes for quite a reasonable assumption.

It might have also been considerate if a link has been posted that did not preview the image. My son who is also an animal lover walked up behind me while the image was on the screen and I only just cleared the screen in time to prevent him seeing it.

Originally Posted by Lord Vader

You don't have to like or understand, but don't claim that because people hunt they are evil and that you are morally superior.