Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Sep 13th 2009 | 8:05 am
#256
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
As someone inferred earlier, human (that includes the native peoples) intervention and settling of larger tracts of Canada has reduced the number (and territory) of natural predators. Given your abhorence of Hunting I trust you do not intend to add your footprint to the number of humans in Canada?
Sep 13th 2009 | 10:02 am
#257
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
I honestly don't understand how people feel it's fine to kill an animal for a bit of fun. It's soulless and destructive behaviour. Perhaps it's worth considering if there might be re-incarnation and that you might come back to earth as a hunted animal, not to mention having to answer to God for this kind of cruelty.
Shoot at a range!
Shoot at a range!
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Sep 13th 2009 | 10:21 am
#258
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
It's not actually soulless. Strange as it may seem quite a bit of "soul" goes into this sport. Not least because you are actually killing an animal. Did you ever see the movie "The Gods must be crazy" and the little hottentot guy thanking the animal he has just killed for feeding his family.
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Sep 13th 2009 | 10:41 am
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
It's not actually soulless. Strange as it may seem quite a bit of "soul" goes into this sport. Not least because you are actually killing an animal. Did you ever see the movie "The Gods must be crazy" and the little hottentot guy thanking the animal he has just killed for feeding his family.
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Well put, sir. I don't hunt and have no intention ever to do so, but well put. I think us Brits get a bit confused between what you've described and upper class twits of the year chasing foxes and such with beagles and too much alcohol on horseback. Quite a different matter, that.
Excellently worded posts
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Sep 13th 2009 | 11:05 am
#260
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Shucks....
Sep 13th 2009 | 12:49 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Well put, sir. I don't hunt and have no intention ever to do so, but well put. I think us Brits get a bit confused between what you've described and upper class twits of the year chasing foxes and such with beagles and too much alcohol on horseback. Quite a different matter, that.
Sep 13th 2009 | 1:15 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Sep 13th 2009 | 1:17 pm
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Sep 13th 2009 | 2:10 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall: I presume/think that is this the guy who had a reality program where he tried to wean participants from their bad food habits.
In one show he had them feed baby lambs, and then either sell or have them butchered. They were invited to the butchering process. All who went had a far deeper respect for their meat than before. And they all ate the lamb
In one show he had them feed baby lambs, and then either sell or have them butchered. They were invited to the butchering process. All who went had a far deeper respect for their meat than before. And they all ate the lamb
Sep 13th 2009 | 4:44 pm
#266
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
For those that hunt check out our new hunting blind that went up over the last couple of weeks in the back part of our yard - just got to finish painting and shes good to go.
For those that don't - oooh look we have a tree house
For those that don't - oooh look we have a tree house
Sep 13th 2009 | 5:38 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
Are you bow hunting deer?
Sep 13th 2009 | 6:41 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
It's not actually soulless. Strange as it may seem quite a bit of "soul" goes into this sport. Not least because you are actually killing an animal. Did you ever see the movie "The Gods must be crazy" and the little hottentot guy thanking the animal he has just killed for feeding his family.
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
If that's not an justification for the fetishism of primeval killing my name is not Amanda Roberts.
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Sep 13th 2009 | 8:45 pm
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
It's not actually soulless. Strange as it may seem quite a bit of "soul" goes into this sport. Not least because you are actually killing an animal. Did you ever see the movie "The Gods must be crazy" and the little hottentot guy thanking the animal he has just killed for feeding his family.
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Now I don't have to kill something in order to eat, nor do I actually have to grow something in order to eat either. In fact, I don't even have break a sweat, pick up a shovel or load a round into a gun. I can just drive to the grocery store and buy something. I don't even need to use money (fruit of my labour) I can use credit! And I can buy my dead animal deboned, deblooded, nicely skinned and sliced, chilled and hung for 10 days and looking like a juicy steak, rather than a warm, furry, moving, mooing bullock.
Isn't something missing from this? Some honesty, some effort, some sweat, some actual care?
Just because we live in the 21st Century and drive cars, it doesn't mean we can't walk. Just because we can text someone, it doesn't mean we can't talk to them.
Hunting is honest. Hunting is all about soul. Hunting is about the death of one animal, but it's also about the circle of life. The "circle of life" isn't just a cute song that Disney made up for the Lion King. It exists. And unless we are honest about our relationship with the living world it's going to turn and "bite us in the ass - big time" (just to throw in a Canadianism).
Do you make your own clothes? Build your own house? Surely if you want to sweat and get back to your "roots" you can't be selective by choosing which parts you like? If so, your reasons stated above just seem hypocritical to me. Do you search for water or do you turn on the tap? Do you crap in the bushes or do you use your loo? Do you drive to the Drs when you need help with your health or do you suffer?
The way humans live evolves yet if you hunt because you enjoy the adrenalin rush you get from making a kill and having the knowledge you're on the top of the food chain then just say so.
All my opinion of course
Sep 14th 2009 | 1:36 am
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Re: Something that will no doubt spark controversy....
As I said in earlier posts, I fail to see the "skill" required in hunting an animal from such a device. I appreciate the skill in being able to hit the target as intended, but one can hardly argue that sitting there waiting for an unsuspecting animal to wander into shooting range is skilful. However, being able to stay awake long enough for said animal to come into range deserves a tip of my hat
