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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Och aye the noo
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 9840765)
Maybe Channel 4 are starting a pre emptive strike on people living in Scotland from viewing English programmes :lol:
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 9840757)
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9840771)
Och aye the noo
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 9840775)
It's a clip from "Absolutely" which may in fact predate our Scottish friend. It was a Scottish TV series by the way.
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Craig1987
(Post 9840756)
Publicly available figures show that Scotland earns surplus income. The rest of the Uk does not. Then there is also earnings from North Sea Oil (which the British Government has massively siphoning from Scotland since it's discovery).
Where are these figures.......... I never claimed to have all the answers did I? Firstly, benefits. Our system for Benefits would basically be in the same mold as the current one. Paid for by N.I contributions. Currency, I'm not sure about. As for armed forces, perhaps we wouldn't have gone into the same conflicts that our lying government led us into. Are you forgetting about the amount of Scottish soldiers? We'd have our own army. You're not really asking any difficult questions. Just ones with obvious answers. Like I already said, our official demonyms are "Scots" and "Scottish". So I don't really care what an English author has to say on this matter. It doesn't make it official. Certainly I'm aware that in modern Scotch English vernacular Scottish is preferred. In English though Scotch or Scottish may be used. |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Craig1987
(Post 9840780)
Thank you for this well thought out post. It must have taken hours to write.
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9840799)
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9840801)
Scotch eggs are the best. I hope they still export them after independence.
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 9840813)
Dont forget the Porridge, Bridies, Scotch Pies, Venison, Galloway cheddars (had to get the cheese in lol), Bannocks and dont forget the Irn Bru to wash it all down.
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 9840769)
That was all part of the Napoleonic wars though. Norway ended up fighting a short war with Sweden after being split off from Denmark. I'm not sure that making comparisons with constitutional changes arising from wars is entirely positive.
Devo max is a cherry picking approach that might well suit Scotland but pressumably England would have some say in the terms. Full independence is certainly an issue for Scotland without reference to England though. As a new country pressumably Scotland would have to apply for EU membership and join the Euro and have it's public spending budget approved by Germany. |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
I'm just so darned proud of starting this thread! (blushes) I think the article I read said defence would stay the same and the oil revenues would be redistributed, the queen stays queen etc. but Cameron didn't want to give the SNP two years to work out kinks and campaign. I can see a vague parallel with Quebec but only on the level that they are both distinct societies. If Quebec separated they could fight a guerilla war with the first nations for a generation. It's wrong to assume western Canada doesn't like Quebec too. All three prairie provinces have significant French (and Scottish!) pioneer history and quite a few Quebecers move out here.
"The constitution of Canada, like that of the United States, makes no provision for secession." John Diefenbaker I'm sure more news will come from Scotland as the year goes on and the demographic voting blocs we've had described make themselves heard. For me the idea that even if they do separate they remain part of the commonwealth seems right. Or do I have that wrong too? |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9840801)
Scotch eggs are the best. I hope they still export them after independence.
I just hope there aren't others like our Scotch friend Jimmy Krankie on here who are up for independence yet buggering off to another country to live and work, leaving the poor tight scotch bastards up there in desolation living with the shit they dealt themselves. Now i really want a scotch egg. |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Editha
(Post 9840818)
Joining the EU is not the same as joining the Eurozone. I think an independent Scotland would want to join the EU, but not the Euro (so it would not get its fiscal policy dictated by Germany). But, currency is a bit of a problem for the SNP. If independent Scotland kept the pound, then its fiscal policy would be dictated by Britain, which would defeat the purpose of independence.
I think you mean monetary policy. |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9840825)
Now i really want a scotch egg.
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Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
The Euro would be up to a further referendum. The NHS is already separate. DVLA would be a right nuisance. The Scottish would gain an additional citizenship, but still be British. Consular services would be shared with the UK. Scotland would be an EU member. Education & Law are already separate. The Queen would remain head of state.
This is all in the freely available and easy to read white paper. http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/...39/0090721.pdf If I am still in Scotland in 2014 I will vote for Devo-Max. |
Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 9840813)
Dont forget the Porridge, Bridies, Scotch Pies, Venison, Galloway cheddars (had to get the cheese in lol), Bannocks and dont forget the Irn Bru to wash it all down.
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