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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)

- The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)

- - Scotttish Independence Referendum (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/scotttish-independence-referendum-744541/)

Craig1987

Jan 13th 2012 7:38 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9840783)

*snip*

A simple google search can suffice.

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9840799)

See you Jimmy

You're on fire. This debate could not exist without you.

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Originally Posted by el_richo

I just hope there aren't others like our Scotch friend Jimmy Krankie on here who are up for independence yet buggering off to another country to live and work, leaving the poor tight scotch bastards up there in desolation living with the shit they dealt themselves.

Excuse me, but can you drop this attitude? Firstly, everyone on this forum has left or is considering leaving the UK. You're being ignorant and offensive. And as it happens, the reason I'm "buggering off" is because the Immigration policies set by the UKBA make it impossible for me to bring my wife to be here to the UK to live with me.

So you might want to think twice before you speak.

Edit:

And I will go as far as to say that you have resorted to cheap personal attacks. It seems that any idiot can be a big man behind his computer.

Alan2005

Jan 13th 2012 7:39 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9840831)

So you might want to think twice before you speak.

Twice? Crikey, you're asking a lot.

el_richo

Jan 13th 2012 7:42 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9840831)

So you might want to think twice before you speak.

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9840833)

Twice? Crikey, you're asking a lot.

What Alan said.

jimf	Jan 13th 2012 7:43 am

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Originally Posted by Editha (Post 9840818)

Joining the EU is not the same as joining the Eurozone. I think an independent Scotland would want to join the EU, but not the Euro (so it would not get its fiscal policy dictated by Germany). But, currency is a bit of a problem for the SNP. If independent Scotland kept the pound, then its fiscal policy would be dictated by Britain, which would defeat the purpose of independence.

But can new entrants to the EU avoid signing up to the Euro? The Uk's opt out was a one off. Any new entrants have to sign up to convergence critera with a view to joining the Euro. That will mean running budget deficits. In the meantime an Independent Scotland would have to use some other currency. I suppose it could use the UK pound like Panama uses the US dollar. Either way fiscal policy is determined by Germany or the UK.

el_richo

Jan 13th 2012 7:45 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9840831)

I may have been born and bred in Glasgow. And who're you calling a big man? That's a little fatist and i thank you kindly to take that back.

Former Lancastrian

Jan 13th 2012 7:46 am

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If I am still in Scotland in 2014 I will vote for Devo-Max.

Well they did do a good version of Whip It & Secret Agent Man.
Im guessing if still together they might be on tour and have no time for this referendum.
http://www.clubdevo.com/

Alan2005

Jan 13th 2012 7:46 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9840842)

Either way fiscal policy is determined by Germany or the UK.

Monetary policy.

Craig1987

Jan 13th 2012 7:46 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9840844)

I may have been born and bred in Glasgow. And who're you calling a big man? That's a little fatist and i thank you kindly to take that bag.

Are you capable of making a post that isn't a joke?

Edit: And what does the fact that you were born in Glasgow have to do with anything?

macadian

Jan 13th 2012 7:53 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9840851)

Are you capable of making a post that isn't a joke?

Edit: And what does the fact that you were born in Glasgow have to do with anything?

It's a bit liking pleading insanity.....:rofl:....or at the very least, diminished responsibility.....

P.S. Glasgow born and bred :cool:

Editha

Jan 13th 2012 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9840827)

Aha! A chance to be pedantic.

I think you mean monetary policy.

No, I mean fiscal policy.

Oink	Jan 13th 2012 8:00 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9840828)

I've wanted one since page 1. I looked in the supermarket today, but couldn't see any:(

Was an a priori justification to make you look for one or was it just a speculative exercise?

el_richo

Jan 13th 2012 8:16 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9840851)

Are you capable of making a post that isn't a joke?

Edit: And what does the fact that you were born in Glasgow have to do with anything?

No i can be quite serious when the subject is important.

I wasn't born in Glasgow.

Alan2005

Jan 13th 2012 8:19 am

Re: Scotttish Independence Referendum

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Originally Posted by Editha (Post 9840855)

No, I mean fiscal policy.

Then you are going to have to explain how germany or the UK government would dictate the level of taxation, government spending, the amount of scottish issued bonds etc post independence.

If germany could actually dictate fiscal policy to eurozone members then maybe greece and italy wouldn't be in such a mess.

MikeUK

Jan 13th 2012 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9840825)

Even RBS is owned primarily by the UK government.

.

Well if they don't sort that out, that would make running your own fiscal policies a bit of a bugger,
Try running an "indenpendant" scotish economy with the English government owned bank as your main supporting partner.... :blink:

Former Lancastrian

Jan 13th 2012 8:24 am

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There again Ewan McGregor made a poetic and patriotic speech about Scotland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1tJJO_pVvQ

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