Scottish family living in England.
#31
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Re: Scottish family living in England.
Yes I see that you have to be a resident of Scotland to be eligible to vote.
So will we see a mass exodus of Scottish people from all over the world heading back to Scotland so they can vote and will they stay in Scotland if the YES vote wins?
Im assuming that all of those Scots who want independence will have no qualms in moving back and living there.
So will we see a mass exodus of Scottish people from all over the world heading back to Scotland so they can vote and will they stay in Scotland if the YES vote wins?
Im assuming that all of those Scots who want independence will have no qualms in moving back and living there.
#32
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Won't it just be like what happened when Canada got independence? If you have an old passport that says "Citizen of the UK and Colonies", you could continue to live and work in Canada without needing to be a Canadian citizen, likewise, people who are UK citizens should be able to continue to live and work in either England or Scotland. Only babies born in either place will become Citizens of either the non-Scotland UK or Scotland and face any restrictions. Also it may encourage the UK and Scotland to be part of the Schengen agreement, so there are no passport checks at the borders.
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Re: Scottish family living in England.
Edit: Scotland would presumably want to remain part of the common travel area
Last edited by Alan2005; Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:25 am.
#34
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Won't it just be like what happened when Canada got independence? If you have an old passport that says "Citizen of the UK and Colonies", you could continue to live and work in Canada without needing to be a Canadian citizen, likewise, people who are UK citizens should be able to continue to live and work in either England or Scotland. Only babies born in either place will become Citizens of either the non-Scotland UK or Scotland and face any restrictions. Also it may encourage the UK and Scotland to be part of the Schengen agreement, so there are no passport checks at the borders.
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Re: Scottish family living in England.
To be honest I think it's wrong that Scottish abroad can't vote. Some might just be away for a few years or might return when they retire. That has nothing to do with not loving their country but sometimes just with providing for a family the best way one can. I think as long as one has the citizenship he should be allowed to take part in decisions regarding his country. I could vote in the German elections via letter vote.
Also no the Germans are not superior to any other country, we all know where that ill believing got us many years ago.
#36
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Unlikely Scots would face any restrictions whatsoever as all of them* up until the day of any supposed independence are British citizens. Those born afterwards would likely be treated the same or, at the very least, in the same manner as Irish citizens.
(*them...meaning the ones who already meet the citizenship rules)
(*them...meaning the ones who already meet the citizenship rules)
#37
Re: Scottish family living in England.
I shudder to think what Salmond's rush to independence will do to Scotland.
I really do not see how Scotland can go it alone without the oil,and gas rights which the English will never surrender.
I voted SNP since I was old enough,but I just cannot see a future for Scotland without those incomes,giving 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote is simple stupidity,on top of that the timing is way off with the current economic climate.
If I was still in the UK when the vote comes,I would vote NO to independence,but as I will be in Canada I won't be voting.In my youth I would have voted YES in an instant,but I think with my head now.
I also highly doubt that there will be a mass influx of Scots returning to vote either way on independence.
I really do not see how Scotland can go it alone without the oil,and gas rights which the English will never surrender.
I voted SNP since I was old enough,but I just cannot see a future for Scotland without those incomes,giving 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote is simple stupidity,on top of that the timing is way off with the current economic climate.
If I was still in the UK when the vote comes,I would vote NO to independence,but as I will be in Canada I won't be voting.In my youth I would have voted YES in an instant,but I think with my head now.
I also highly doubt that there will be a mass influx of Scots returning to vote either way on independence.
#38
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Wait...so you've voted for the SNP but you don't want independence...?
#39
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Unlikely Scots would face any restrictions whatsoever as all of them* up until the day of any supposed independence are British citizens. Those born afterwards would likely be treated the same or, at the very least, in the same manner as Irish citizens.
(*them...meaning the ones who already meet the citizenship rules)
(*them...meaning the ones who already meet the citizenship rules)
#40
Re: Scottish family living in England.
I shudder to think what Salmond's rush to independence will do to Scotland.
I really do not see how Scotland can go it alone without the oil,and gas rights which the English will never surrender.
I voted SNP since I was old enough,but I just cannot see a future for Scotland without those incomes,giving 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote is simple stupidity,on top of that the timing is way off with the current economic climate.
If I was still in the UK when the vote comes,I would vote NO to independence,but as I will be in Canada I won't be voting.In my youth I would have voted YES in an instant,but I think with my head now.
I also highly doubt that there will be a mass influx of Scots returning to vote either way on independence.
I really do not see how Scotland can go it alone without the oil,and gas rights which the English will never surrender.
I voted SNP since I was old enough,but I just cannot see a future for Scotland without those incomes,giving 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote is simple stupidity,on top of that the timing is way off with the current economic climate.
If I was still in the UK when the vote comes,I would vote NO to independence,but as I will be in Canada I won't be voting.In my youth I would have voted YES in an instant,but I think with my head now.
I also highly doubt that there will be a mass influx of Scots returning to vote either way on independence.
I agree that much depends on the oil & gas revenues. But it's not so much about surrender as sharing. The fact is that Scotland will be able to negotiate some share of those revenues, and if the share is high enough a case for independence can be made (and vice versa).
Elsewhere: All the talk of a Mexican's voting rights (in contrast to an EU resident's rights) is absolute nonsense.
If Scotland did vote YES, although it would be a massive administrative project to implement independence, but it could certainly be done. Look at the Czech Republic and Slovakia who are now two independent nations.
#41
Re: Scottish family living in England.
Yes,I just don't think that Scotland can survive alone especially the way the economy is atm!
If we had the oil & gas revenues,and Thatcher had not sold off the fishing rights around the coast of Scotland then yes,we may have been able to afford going it alone.
I would love an independent Scotland,but I feel the cost is too high.
If we had the oil & gas revenues,and Thatcher had not sold off the fishing rights around the coast of Scotland then yes,we may have been able to afford going it alone.
I would love an independent Scotland,but I feel the cost is too high.
#42
Re: Scottish family living in England.
The German would as an EU citizen, EU citizens are allowed to vote in local and EU elections in any other EU country they are residents of. The Mexican, probably not unless he/she was able to get onto the electoral roll.
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