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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)
-   -   Rob Ford Again (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/rob-ford-again-807532/)

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2013 1:24 pm
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10995651)
That's not the point at all. The man showed no respect for his wife by talking the way he did.
What...that he eats out of her plate?????

ExKiwilass Nov 17th 2013 2:02 pm
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10995640)
Am yet to see a picture of Mrs Ford
um, it's all over the internets.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 17th 2013 7:46 pm
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
One thing he has managed to do is draw the attention of US media, which is not an easy task generally since US media is not interested in Canada generally.

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2013 11:35 pm
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Not just him though...Justin Bieber is doing is part too globally, by kicking an Argentina flag off stage :eek:

Ford to council....eat this

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/t....letterbox.jpg

jimf Nov 18th 2013 9:29 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Just out of interest has Rob Ford been charged with anything yet?

Novocastrian Nov 18th 2013 9:46 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10997129)
Just out of interest has Rob Ford been charged with anything yet?
Was Richard Nixon ever charged by the police?

caretaker Nov 18th 2013 10:15 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997148)
Was Richard Nixon ever charged by the police?
I believe the conspirators took the rap, but as a legal prophylactic President Ford issued him a full pardon in 1974 for any crimes he may have commited while in office.

jimf Nov 18th 2013 10:16 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997148)
Was Richard Nixon ever charged by the police?
Nixon received a pardon to remove the possibility of charges. That's a no then?

Novocastrian Nov 18th 2013 10:30 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10997168)
Nixon received a pardon to remove the possibility of charges. That's a no then?
Not up to me mate. Doubt it though. The other thing that didn't happen when Nixon was impeached was a referendum or a new election.

It was the equivalent of the Council (Consigliere in the case of Doug) what done it.

caretaker Nov 18th 2013 10:38 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997178)
Not up to me mate. Doubt it though. The other thing that didn't happen when Nixon was impeached was a referendum or a new election.
You must mean 'when Nixon resigned'.

jimf Nov 18th 2013 10:39 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997178)
Not up to me mate. Doubt it though. The other thing that didn't happen when Nixon was impeached was a referendum or a new election.

It was the equivalent of the Council (Consigliere in the case of Doug) what done it.
Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

Novocastrian Nov 18th 2013 10:43 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 10997186)
You must mean 'when Nixon resigned'.
Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10997189)
Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.
He had better judgement than Rob Ford. Ford refuses to resign even after being (the equivalent of) impeached.

jimf Nov 18th 2013 10:53 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997195)
He had better judgement than Rob Ford. Ford refuses to resign even after being (the equivalent of) impeached.
All the pundits seem to be saying the flaw in the Toronto system of government is that there is no impeachment system for the mayor. If so there is no particular imperative for him to resign.

Nixon knew he would lose the impeachment process so resigned first.

Both decisions reflect the strength and weakness of each position.

caretaker Nov 18th 2013 11:02 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10997195)
He had better judgement than Rob Ford. Ford refuses to resign even after being (the equivalent of) impeached.
Trying to cover up his involvment in the burglary of Ellsberg's office (even though all pols are guilty of some espionage) and getting caught is way more serious than being a drunk buffoon on occasion. Because Operation Traveller is still waiting for court it's still unclear what if any charges Ford may face. Knowing a few gangsters isn't desireable in a mayor but isn't a crime, People tend to forget Nixon got the US out of Vietnam; his major crime was letting some of the cracks (no pun intended) in America's facade show. On a bus in southern Oaxaca in '75 the man next to me was reading a magazine about Watergate - the cover pic the Capital with all conspirators in front and the title was something like El Terminal Centro de Corruptione. In comparison the Ford case is similar to Nixon's in that both are about image rather than substance.

jimf Nov 18th 2013 11:09 am
Re: Rob Ford Again
 
A fairly neutral assessment of the situation:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...d-council-coup

If council want to get rid of him they have the power to call an election............


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